Want

[Mohan.C]

How necessary is it to 'want'? Do we all see the same world or do we all just 'want' to? ...

Its an open discussion, all views accepted ...

[labelwench]

How necessary is it to 'want'? Do we all see the same world or do we all just 'want' to? ...

Its an open discussion, all views accepted ...

Beyond the 'wants' that could more properly be described as basic needs, there is a vast array to choose from, in my observation.

Material 'wants' or 'desires' can prove both gratifying if achieved or frustrating if they are not achievable due to limited access or resources. The economic model of capitalism conditions people to 'want' things that might never have occurred to them to be desired, save that advertising and innovation creates the illusion of 'need to have' and society, as it follows such trends then becomes excluding of the individuals who do not participate. One example is that to access the employment market today, one is increasingly required to have access to a computer as many employers will only accept resumes on line, and choose whom they wish to interview from such applicants. Certainly there are public venues of computer and internet access, yet these are in limited supply and can prove challenging to schedule access unto. Without reliable internet access, the individual becomes compromised in fulfilling their basic needs, though such may not be a personal 'want', save it is being thrust upon them.

In other personal 'wants' the majority of persons I have conversed with express a desire for 'a place of their own', and as a communal species, most also express the desire 'not to feel alone.'

A great thread starter, Mohan, and delighted to see you.

A music video that rather suits the topic, IMO......

[labelwench]

Perhaps as this thread moves along, participants might also share some of their own 'wants'........

It occurs to me that 'wants' might be quite interesting among different age groups, genders and cultures and it might be rather enlightening to compare where they run similar and where they may differentiate. The most attainable of expectations in some countries might well be only a pipe-dream for persons in another.

Just a thought......

[Mohan.C]

And also frustrating when we don't want to but we have to. Its not a need either. I don't want a job, I need a job. I don't even need a job, but I 'have to' get a job. Interesting how the illusion of need is created. When we have been taught the basic necessities for life is - Food, air, water and shelter. To sustain these necessities we need so many other things, which are more like luxuries, but that's crossing the line towards greed, I guess. But is it? Not necessarily. :P.
The point I like to bring up is that, "How necessary is it to want?" Why is it that a lack of "wanting" is considered as a "weakness"?
We all need the same things. Do we all want the same things only because we all want it? The answer to that is "Yes". ???


And thanks for the welcome back . It feels good to be back.

[Mohan.C]

And for some ... :P ...

[labelwench]

What a delightful selection by Barry Louis Polisar!

The simple things in life and someone to share them with, as in this melody by......

Allison Krauss - Simple Love

Little yellow house sittin' on a hill
That is where he lived
That is where he died
Every Sunday morning
Hear the weeping willows cry

Two children born
A beautiful wife
Four walls and livin's all he needed in life
Always giving, never asking back
I wish I had a simple love like that

I want a simple love like that
Always giving, never askin' back
For when I'm in my final hour lookin' back
I hope I had a simple love like that

My momma was his only little girl
If he'd had the money he'd have given her the world
Sittin' on the front porch together they would sing
Oh how I long to hear that harmony

I want a simple love like that
Always giving never asking back
When I'm in my final hour looking back
I hope I had a simple love like that

I want a simple love like that
Always giving never asking back
When I'm in my final hour looking back
I hope I had a simple love like that

[austintorn@aol.com]

Do we all see the same world or do we all just 'want' to? ...

No, all do not see or "want" the same world, world view, or cosmos view.

All are free to "want" any meaning they wish to.

Graduated school, Mohan?

[labelwench]

The point I like to bring up is that, "How necessary is it to want?" Why is it that a lack of "wanting" is considered as a "weakness"?

Originally posted by Mohan

You bring up an excellent point, Mohan, in regard to how modern society views any who seem not to 'want' as some form of undesirable anomaly.

From the perspective of capitalism, the system would collapse, or at least require serious restructuring, if the majority of the population became knowledgeable to the understanding that 'needs' are few and that it is not necessary to have endless 'wants'.

You have identified not individual weakness but the chink in the armor of our artificial world called 'the economy'.

It is in fulfilling the many 'wants' of the individual that our planetary resources are being squandered and habitat laid waste, when what is chiefly needed is a better sharing of those resources to meet basic human needs and an understanding that 'wants' are purely arbitrary and can be tailored and addressed in quite a different manner than by the mere acquisition of chattel. Everyone should be blessed with more than enough at some point in their life, that they may better comprehend how easily one becomes chained to one's 'wants' rather than liberated by them, in my opinion.

We arrive in this world without pockets and we leave the same way. How great our burden in life is more often than not determined by our wants. Were I to win the lottery at this point in my life, it would not be to acquire more things, or even to travel, but to allow myself unstructured time to experience the world as it is. Then again, the mere thought of the kind of attention that significant wealth would require of me to 'manage responsibly' is enough to make me shudder.

To remain in good health and be on good terms with others, with some time to call my own.....good enough!

[Mohan.C]

No, all do not see or "want" the same world, world view, or cosmos view.

All are free to "want" any meaning they wish to.

Graduated school, Mohan?

All are "free". Say we.
But, we 'want' them to be free. How free is that? .


I graduated college, its been almost 10 months. .

[Mohan.C]

You bring up an excellent point, Mohan, in regard to how modern society views any who seem not to 'want' as some form of undesirable anomaly.

From the perspective of capitalism, the system would collapse, or at least require serious restructuring, if the majority of the population became knowledgeable to the understanding that 'needs' are few and that it is not necessary to have endless 'wants'.

You have identified not individual weakness but the chink in the armor of our artificial world called 'the economy'.

It is in fulfilling the many 'wants' of the individual that our planetary resources are being squandered and habitat laid waste, when what is chiefly needed is a better sharing of those resources to meet basic human needs and an understanding that 'wants' are purely arbitrary and can be tailored and addressed in quite a different manner than by the mere acquisition of chattel. Everyone should be blessed with more than enough at some point in their life, that they may better comprehend how easily one becomes chained to one's 'wants' rather than liberated by them, in my opinion.

We arrive in this world without pockets and we leave the same way. How great our burden in life is more often than not determined by our wants. Were I to win the lottery at this point in my life, it would not be to acquire more things, or even to travel, but to allow myself unstructured time to experience the world as it is. Then again, the mere thought of the kind of attention that significant wealth would require of me to 'manage responsibly' is enough to make me shudder.

To remain in good health and be on good terms with others, with some time to call my own.....good enough!

To remain on good terms with others!

To accept everyone's views without wanting to. That's difficult. Doesn't that mean we are faking it?

The illusion that we 'want' is not merely an illusion. I doubt that anyone unconditionally wants anything. Our minds are conditioned to 'want'. To 'win'. To be accepted.

By trying 'To not feel alone'. We create a society of people who are alone. And they are not alone anymore. And this is a 'want' too. To want to not feel alone. Again I doubt that it is in our power to question that and try to 'feel alone'. Man 'is' a social animal.

Doesn't that mean we have to submit to the 'wants' if we don't want to end up alone. Its not a question of 'swimming against the tide'. Its a question of trying to find a place to swim along. To find the perfect wave. . We 'need' society. We are part of it. But, we 'want' to be free from it.