What are Quanta made of?

[Guille]

nothing is energy. all are forms of energy

The thing is that energy is the forms of energy. Just like force is the forms of force.

[mkirkpatrick]

nothing is energy. all are forms of energy

I agreewith that,nothing=all and all =no-thing!


kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

The thing is that energy is the forms of energy. Just like force is the forms of force.

Now I agree that Quanta isnt energy quanta is a composure of energy so it exhibits as a form of energy. So the particle which has infinitesimal energy is elementary as energy itself is not a particle. Energy doesn't exist in the true state just like carbon has allotrophic forms. Energy exhibits in different forms. Energy it is which is elementary

[Ingvar]

It is an absurd question for the simple reason that quantum refers to the smallest possible piece of quantity by which something can be divided. But, it is also very dificult to think of something that is fundamental, that is not made of something smaller. Therefore, this thread.

What are the fundamental elementary particles made of?

I started a long time ago a similar thread but about strings, now, to see the opinions in general physics, not only a theory, I do this thread.

Hej,
Let me continue this photon=quanta question with my explanation from my answer 08-03-2005 at http://www.toequest.com/forum/showth...ghlight=Ingvar

There I wrote:
<< Let me answer your question that "photon" is a misinterpretation of the fractional entropy-displacement of the heat-radiations wave-spectrum. >>

Now I have made a new sound experiment that demonstrates how entropy -- where energy dissipates towards equilibrium -- is a general principle that is based on the same general law of nature for electrodynamics (light), hydrodynamics (waterwaves) and aerorodynamics (sound).
Se the sound experiment's measurings at http://www.geocities.com/theuniphysi...-analysing.PDF

A "quanta" a misinterpretation of how much a wave is elongated (displaced=redshifted) from one wave-unit to next or which distance (as a wave-train) you want to measure.

You can read the explanation at http://www.geocities.com/theuniphysics/english.htm

See my web-site where I show the experiment's explanation and much more of the empirical derivations at http://www.theuniphysics.info

Ingvar, Sweden
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[mkirkpatrick]

I dont know if Quanta is made of energy. But i thought Quanta is Energy

What else is there my friend,but energy,pure and
simple!!!


kind regards michael.

[Mr. Nobody]

Quanta is the currency of energy and represents the smallest change in a state possible like a penny represents the smallest unit of my countries economic worth. Quanta is measurement.
Particles are measurement too. There is no duality of particle and wave, just information in the form of a particle and true presence in the form of a probabilty wave

[Guille]

Mr.Nobody,

Your view is very interesting. But don't you think that if we view light as particles from the point of view of information, there should thus be a sort of physical existence of the light were it actually is particles?

[Guille]

Ingvar,

Do you mean that entropy is a fluid? If so, do you use it in sort of substitude to the idea of ether?

[Mr. Nobody]

The penny represents a measure of economic worth. But what does the economy look like? Can I touch the econmoy? No

Photon is the same thing. It appears touchable and tangible like the penny, but without the context of what it represents (energy in this case) it is meaningless like the penny. The penny is worthless without an economy to back it up (some might say it already is worthless ).
The photon is the smallest currency of energy.
Quanta is measurement, the smallest currency of knowledge. Since it takes at least 2 units of measurement to identify reality (momentum and location for instance), we have the uncertainty problem when we try to extract 2 bits of information from one unit of measurement.

This sounds pretty akward, but to me this illustrates the reasoning behind the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle the best way and has led me to abandon the solid particle principle for the wave interpretation of nature.

[Mohan.C]

Mr.Nobody,

But it seems like you believe that quanta has a extension in space. But when you try to measure it-the uncertainity problem. But when we try to measure a particle we quantize it. But how can we quantize a quanta. It's like comparing something with itself. So quanta can't have an extension in space-time. It also can't be a wave kind of thing because that also can be measured. It is just the elementary that is so elementary that it is beyond our scope of observation.

Dimensions-we haven't seen it, we imagine it. It is not observed but we take it as such. But aren't dimensions active they help us to picture the very basic. They are the kind of fundamentals. I am writing this because I cannot accept something which doesn't have a base. We cannot touch dimensions. But we can alter dimensions. Or nature can or for me dimensions can alter dimensions or else how can there be force. But force produces work. It produces energy or consumes it or we can say this is an exchange of Quanta. And this is because of the alteration in dimensions Or alteration in the number of quanta available for more work. Does this mean Quanta are components of dimension or quanta is dimensions-the space-time. We take the basic- length(metres), time(seconds), Based on the radiations of certain elements. The radiations=> energy=> Quanta=> work=> force......etc. And this all goes to the alterations or fluctuations in dimensions.

I want to end this post here.

Mohan