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    photon vs photon

    Photons cannot interact with each other. Photons from the same source also cannot overtake each other even though they can have energy differences. These differences are consequences of frequency/wavelength variations allowing the phenomena of interference, coherence and phase property. However, when photons interact with matter waves their velocities decreased and became slower than the charged particles traveling along the same direction within the medium of propagation. This is the culmination of Cerenkov’s experiments in 1934, seminal demonstrations of the bluish radiation analogous to sonic booms.
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    Perhaps, it's the medium which is disallowing photons to be at a constant velocity, wavelength, amplitude and so on. But my question is "what is this medium, photons propagate through? (maybe it's aether or something similar?)

    P.S Although the michelson experiment have disproved the aether theory, but that doesn't mean it cannot exist.

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    modern concept

    Quote Originally Posted by Unreal Zelta
    "what is this medium, photons propagate through?
    The modern concept of the aether is equivalent to the existence of a continuous space-time fabric obeying general relativity and quantum mechanics. I am working on a theory to quantize this space-time fabric at the local infinitesimal region of it existence using mathematical category theory.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Antonio,
    I cannot wait to hear your new theory!

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    The Photon Illusion

    Zelta;
    Actually the Michelson Morley experiment did not prove that the Aether did not exist; it only gave a null result that did not prove it either way.

    The notion that photons are real traveling units of light is a widely promoted misconception, even though Feynman is one of the promoters. Light is a wave in the medium regardless of what one may call this medium. The photon is a measured quantity increment of energy perceived as absorbed or emitted. It is not a real existing force particle traveling from place to place.
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    I'm aware of the wave properties of photons. Anyhow, thanks for the correction on the Michelson experiment.

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    Hello,
    It Is Known Phenomena That When Ever Photon Or Light Passes Through Some Medium Loses It Constant Speed And Slows Down But As It Leaves The Medium It Regain Its Speed How It Is Possible.

    I Have Another Question Which Is About Seeing Things. Teachers Tell Student That We See Things When Light Or Photon Reflect From That Object And Enter In Our Eyes. I Want Ask When Photon Enter Our Eyes It Give The Image Of Object But After That Where That Photon Gone.
    As Dleviwing Mention That Photon Is Not Real Particles. They Only Observes As Energy Packets Or Photons When They Are Absorsed Or Emitted But I Read In The Book "facts And Mysteries Of Particle Physics" That According To Plancks Only Light Emitted In The Form Of Photons But Acorrding To Einstein Not Only Emitted Light Is Observed As Photons , Whole Light Is Propagates Through Space Or Medium In The Form Of Photons.

    How Electric And Magnetic Components Are Prependicular To Each Other? What Is Concept Of Mass Shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HIGGSBOSONS
    Hello,
    It Is Known Phenomena That When Ever Photon Or Light Passes Through Some Medium Loses It Constant Speed And Slows Down But As It Leaves The Medium It Regain Its Speed How It Is Possible.
    The photon is pure energy, simply massless. Therefore, it doesn't hold the rules of matter like momentum, speed addition (like when you run inside a train you have both your speed and the train's speed, that doesn't happen with mr.photon)... The photon's energy determines that it goes at 300,000km/s for vacuum independently of the type of light it is (in the electromagnetic spectrum). There are no vacuums, therefore the speed of the photon changes in relation to the medium it is at. When it goes from a smaller to a higher speed due to medium change, it is the facility that it has; it doesn't accelerate, it's just that it always have the same energy but in some mediums there is more density of particles therefore there is more resistance to the energy, but the energy keeps equal. And when it goes into a less dense medium, the energy simply ahs less resistance, but it is the same value of energy in the photon.

    Quote Originally Posted by HIGGSBOSONS
    I Have Another Question Which Is About Seeing Things. Teachers Tell Student That We See Things When Light Or Photon Reflect From That Object And Enter In Our Eyes. I Want Ask When Photon Enter Our Eyes It Give The Image Of Object But After That Where That Photon Gone.
    As Dleviwing Mention That Photon Is Not Real Particles. They Only Observes As Energy Packets Or Photons When They Are Absorsed Or Emitted But I Read In The Book "facts And Mysteries Of Particle Physics" That According To Plancks Only Light Emitted In The Form Of Photons But Acorrding To Einstein Not Only Emitted Light Is Observed As Photons , Whole Light Is Propagates Through Space Or Medium In The Form Of Photons.
    The photons are absorbed by our eyes and end up crashing with the nucleus of the atoms in our eyes, and as Feynman discovered ('The Strange Theory of Light and Matter'), light destroys when it enters in contact with matter.
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    Re: photon vs photon

    My understanding:

    Photon is a particle and a wave at the same time.

    It is a traverse Wave, with two fields modulating at 90* perpendicular to one another and to the axis of propagation, x. The two fields are Electric Field and Magnetic Field Respectfully. My theorm places these two Fields as point particles in perfectly Helixicity orbiting one another along x. Two Monopoles actually.

    Medium of mass is then simply imbalance of these two fields and therefor by my theorm monopoles. A photon has a gravitation of 1, apparently at it's ground state.According to a formulae that was brought to my attention.

    G = (mc^2)_i / (mc^2)_j s*V

    s is space, given as:
    s^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - t^2
    V is volume
    m is mass, and c is the Speed of light.

    now by my reckoning, m and c are interchangable, m is simply like n.

    So we can give the famous E = mc^2 as
    E = (epsilon * mu)/(epsilon_0 * mu_0).

    What all this comes together, in my mind, to say is that when there is an imbalance in either field (poles) the particle drops to sub-luminal velocity. Which suggests that perhaps it is possible to travel along at c, without accelerating. Simply by adjusting one's local Field Balance.
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    However in shadow of these two-as-one, you will always find a third, making three-as-two-as-one.

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    Re: photon vs photon

    I think all matter is both waves and particles, and G = E / c^2.


 

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