[humanbydefault]

In order to obtain electricity we all know that we need a constant-cheap-and relieable source of HEAT. THOSE BIG TURBINES HAVE TO SPIN NON-STOP TO PRODUCE OR GENERATE ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY TO LIGHT UP OUR CITIES AND FACTORIES.
If we were to unveil such a force one day... We could protect our planet from contamination from hydrocarbon expossure... You'd agree with me on this topic too.
When I referred to a mini-sun or a miniature star [said in other words] I was talking about a process I see as making hydrogen to starve until it reaches its "***crisis." It's all derived from my conclusions about the true nature of matter if you will. Remember that we differ eachother concerning the fundaments in the understanding of matter but it won't hurt to take a short look to my views, would it?
Let's make clear that it is just a thought experiment based on a possible direct result of my theory... nothing more.
As a matter of recollection, I assumed that hydrogen is the simplest form of interference between two specks of "PRIMARY ENERGY." I sincerely hope that calling it "PRIMARY" will help me separate the type of energy involved in the "making of the atom" [and therefore matter] from the one we could measure as a result of our intervention... strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force and electromagnetic force. I assumed in other postings of mine that such magnitude of energy is only seen when a star explodes and specially when the so-called "Big-Bang" occured.
It's part of my absolute believes that mater is compossed by this process. The FUSION taking place right after the Big Expanssion formed stars and inside them heavier atoms found their way to coexist and be scattered through out the cosmos. Hydrogen is the simplest one of the "family." They are [as I called them in the past] the major source of energy "parasitism" in the entire universe. Hydrogen absorbs a great part of those quanta in the form of neutrinos and other sizes we might have no way to presently detect.
I assume that as the general decay runs its path the mass of hydrogen gas in the cosmos will increase "forcing" more and more heavier atoms to DECAY in order to keep up with the increasing rate of "energy demand" [parasitism].
Sometimes the universe finds natural obstacles to "supply" that amount of energy according to the specific demand and a good example could PROBABLY be inside the very core of stars [sun]. Imagine what could happen to a high concentration of isolated hydrogen in a place where a Helium shilding [for example] would interfere with the "feeding process of energy"...!
I propose to do the same in a LAB... under a highly controlled environment.
I "PREDICT" such amount of energy being released that it could light up an entire city with the heat scattered from it.
In my views MASS is just an invisible but necessary "filling." I can see that the term is a little bit abstract to every one but its existence is verified in my theory by Einstein's famous equation too. "My mass" [If you allow me to express myself this way here] is far from being "ENERGY-CONVERTIBLE." It is scalar in nature just as heat and its presence inside MATTER is directly proportional to the "primary energies" involved in the PATTERN [standing nuclear waves]. Obviously the higher the actual magnitude of "primary energies" involved in the FUSION [heavier atoms] the more the magnitude of [innert] mass will be involved. Mass is entirely irrelevant for my views of physical reality just the way it is for quantum mechanics equations TODAY.
It may look a little bit squeptical to actually imagine that a simplest grain of sand in the beach is the holder of an incredible huge powerful "primary energy" spinning in such a pattern that is not only CAPABLE but FORCED to HIDE its power SAVING ITSELF from dissipation in the process!!!!
That's why I see the universe so incredibly "smart."
I hope one day we will learn some of those tricks from our master... It's just a hope.

HUMANBYDEFAULT

*** Every pattern of "standing waves" [as seen in sound thecnology] requires a perfect PHASE-INTERACTION during the so-called "interference." If for any reason the two colliding waves passing each other were different [frequency or amplitude] a resulting missalignement will occur. Translated to my theory>>> it will represent the rupture of a perfect pattern where total energy saved initially is being disrrupted for a new "defective" one allowing some "leaking" of this "primary energy" into the vacuum. That's the key-point of my thought experiment: To produce a misslaignement between the specks... wait until one of them naturally "runs out" of "primary energy" and take advantage of the "leak."

[mkirkpatrick]

Just to say,HBD,that the idea you present has enormous potential,keep up the focussed intent,like a laser,you will burn a hole into fresh understanding?


kindest regards michael

[humanbydefault]

I don't want to "spoil anyone's party" but it is part of my deepest set of beliefs that TIME TRAVEL IS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. I don't know if you have read a little bit about some of Einstein's assumed "evidences" about the general theory of relativity. One of those "proves" accepted today is what is called the "red shift" of light. The principle is based in the same phenomenon observed when you hear the syren of an ambulance and the corresponding change in frequency as the distance increased. I do agree in the fact that for an observer in a higer altitude with respect to the planet surface light will manifest the IMPRESSION of experimenting the so-called "red-shift." If I'm not mistaken the experiment still considered the final word about this "prediction" took place in the university of Harvard. A beam of light was shot from its ground source and on the top of a "tower" light was observed to decrease its speed down to the infrared.
Was that all it happened? Are we sure that we didn't miss anything else here?
I see things a little "different, my friend Mike. I believe that as the RADIUS of the observer increases along with its distance from the Earth's core time is inherently "moving" at a slower rate. The actual density of the vacuum changes with the square of the distance from the surface. The same phenomenon but in opposite direction is observed when a "particle" [quantum of energy] approach the Earth's atmosphere and hits the surface of the planet. We see them moving faster toward us when in fact they are changing the actual TIME-ENVIRONMENT if you will. This difference between the layers of time is determined by the actual distance from the planet core, where the region with the highest gravity is located.

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Aiya-Oba

Well, I am willing to say your "Photon Theory" is on the side of progress and new understanding, atop the shoulders of the greats of physics such as Albert Einstein.
There is no question ,there are many more unbelievable things for humans to
believe, to truely understand the geometry of the universe as:the Continuum in the Discrete.Certainly, photons have hidden charge and mass.just as electron has content yet unknown to humans. It all makes for an interesting future for
those with open and creative minds.Everthing is in everything.-Aiya-Oba.

You are correct in an affirmitive rightness that merits no questionable questions,as to its inherent truthfulness!

kind regards michael.

[humanbydefault]

"...The strange situation for neutrinos, different from all the other elementary particles, is that the state of the particle which we call the muon neutrino may not be the same as the particle mass state. Their identities are not the same: neutrinos are some sort of schizophrenic combination, a Dr.Jekyl and Mr. Hyde sort of affair. The muon neutrino is apparently composed of two different masses. Something like that never happens in macroscopic objects.
For example, the muon neutrino may be composed of half each of two states of slightly different mass. These massive neutrino states may be thought of as waves which have some specific periodicity for a given energy. The two mass states having different periodicities will oscillate in and out of phase with each other as they travel along (like the beats between to neighboring musical pitches). In one phase the pair may interact as a muon neutrino and when shifted by 90 degrees they may make a tau neutrino. In such a circumstance, if one could make a mono-energetic muon neutrino beam at an accelerator and had a moveable detector, then at first one would observe only muons being produced. Further one would see only taus. At twice the distance taus again, and so on. In between, one would see some fraction of each kind. (We find that the beat frequency of oscillation of muon neutrinos of one GeV energy is about a high D, if we could hear them!)
Experimentally we have not been able to do this at accelerators so far, because as it is turning out, the distance for oscillations has been too long to make a practical experiment (though new experiments are now being proposed based upon the information we are finding). With one GeV neutrinos one needs distances of hundreds of miles..."

Do you remember the "image" of light I gave you in this forum a while ago?
I spoke about a regular ray of light compossed of a wide spectrum of frequency photons [colors] and how they alternate each other as they propagate throughout the vacuum... Well, Couldn't this same "image" explain the so-called "neutrino-oscillation" process too???

I know it is a long shot! Think about it! They have said that the actual distance is an obstacle to actually observe the inherent oscilation produced when a type of neutrino [quantum of energy] is actually transformed into a different type [from a muon neutrino to a tau neutrino] (!)

I think I have the answer I was looking for! The same principle is applicable for regular white light!!!!

The problem is that when we attempt to "collapse the wave" in order to detect the given type of neutrino we are in fact "CHOSING" final and definitive typr of quantum TO BE OBSERVE IN OUR DETECTORS. (!)

This news about neutrino oscillations and their mutations just "MADE MY DAY."

Thank you universe!

humanbydefault

[humanbydefault]

"...I wish that you would reduce your evangelical physics diatribes down to the basic fundamentals of what it is that you are trying to say. From what I gather, the gist of wat you are saying is essentially a disagreement with the status quo in the field of quantum physics. Uh, just because something doesn't have a charge, it can still have a charge? Uh, if you squeezed enough photons into a well packed snowball type of object then you would have a charged object with mass? Or something like that? But that experiment is outside of the realm of possibility and the closest that we can come to defining a real photon is that it is a small quantity of the nothing out of which everything was wrested, including space-time and matter..."

How could anyone explained that a quantum of energy that [now have what they called mass] is able to change from one REALITY into the following one according to the distance we [humans] were conducting the measuring procedure?
AHA!
Could we extend the same analogy to the atomic orbits too? All this time I've been writting about the mutation experimenting by a PHYSICAL REALITY that is beyond the simple math 2=2=4! One thing is dealing with "billiard balls" in the macroworld and other completely different speaking about the result of waves and their interaction in the vacuum... which by the way is not entirely neutral in all this.
Physicists are exciting about the fact that one of their "elemental particles" is able to transmutate its quatum nature into a different type just like a magician act or a concealed miracle...(?)
This thread was about light > "bosons" > a sort of long wavelength electro-magnetic energy [density of the 3rd class] a "massless" and "chargeless" form of energy also coming from the sun... I think I look myself like a prophet of metaphysics than someone who see the quantum reality with a different perspectives...
Neutrinos are the fruit of decay during a solar entropy process. They are pretty small size quantum of energy [of the 2nd and 1st grade] with a very short wavelength and they talk about "Dr. Jekill and Mr. Hide..." when referring to their alleged mass... I suposse they will start speaking about their charge by the next decade if we get lucky...(?)
Who knows... maybe in hundred years from now these postings will be seen as "the words of the ancient prophets..." Get out of here!

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

It wouldn't be possible to explain the origin of the electromagnetic field without conceiving the electrical charge of one electron as a "frozen entity."
The identity of what we see and observe as "sub-atomic particles" [outside the atom] is the result of the "IN-SITE" measurement of its constantly changing structure at the moment of COLLAPSE.

This is the posting of my [second] comment concerning the amazing results of the project MINOS a month ago being published:

http://www.toequest.com/engine/site/news/comments/482/

The conclusions of their experiment is in no contradiction with those views of the physical reality I've been posting in this forum since DAY ONE and neither some of the same conclusions about the true nature of "particles" self-published in my book 2 years ago. There are no ETERNAL particles populating the universe. Those "sub-atomic realities" we collapse into "particles" exist in different configurations as they move across space. The same analogy is also applicable inside the atomic structure too. Neutrons are the "side-effect" of the actual bonding between hydrogen(s) or elemental constituents of matter.
They are unstable and cease to exist once outside the actual structure that allowed them to exist (!)

Take a fast look at my comment and tell me honesty if it makes sense or not. I'm interesting in your comments too.

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by humanbydefault

It wouldn't be possible to explain the origin of the electromagnetic field without conceiving the electrical charge of one electron as a "frozen entity."
Take a fast look at my comment and tell me honesty if it makes sense or not. I'm interesting in your comments too.HUMANBYDEFAULT

I like the term "frozen entity". Zero Kelvin?

The conclusions reached in the specific case with neutrinos has been the way I have [for years now] conceive the true nature of the physical REALITY.
You are still dealing with the concept of “particles” in your arguments about reality I don’t! It is precisely the superposition of waves of energy [being that electromagnetic, or a denser type of radiation] what will actually determined what we will “observe” and “measure” in our “apparatus.”
Some circles of experimentalists are trying to dismissed “The Pauli Exclusion Principle” as obsolete… I don’t blame them! I blame the way we interprete REALITY instead.
Those electronic orbits we sometimes “get confused” every time we don’t understand why there is ample space “empty” and no electrons occupying it is due precisely to the fact that orbits are harmonics built from the very core of the atom upward. If you are interested in reading a different type of reality just go to:
http://www.toequest.com and look for my articles… It will be fun, I promise!
M. De Zayas [HUMANBYDEFAULT]

I agree with the fact that the true nature of all matter is waves. When everone realizes this the confusion will go away. The universe is infinite quantum of light energy, there is no void, and never was. It's all a standard Newtonian universe. Light bending is just as easily described by Newton's gravity equations - 32'/sec./sec. Light must fall toward the sun even under old Netonian mechanics. Einstein is not needed here... Matter is phased energy, period. These are facts, as there is no other way for the mind to logically perform. Think deeply about it. When you start from matter/particles/masses you only create your own self-seeming self-created paradoxes. When you start from wave/matter/particles/mass you have a beautifully logical picture, and no paradoxes exist. The quantum of light is King...

Furthermore, since it is a singularity we are talking about, all quantum of light is life, and all life is quantum of light, as there is no other, except the singularity of quantum of light. It is everything - dark and light waves. True logic dictates it to be one and the same essence of quantum humanism, or a humanistic quantum - how else could Baud's quantum feel/see?[not that I know this to be true, but I like it; it feels right as I have also felt this] Therefore; light requires life, life requires light. This is the singularity circle of all quantum life cycles. Since it is all one, all is required to be in the one life cycle of quantum of light. There is no other logic available to you. You are either in the singularity, or you are out of it. Out isn't very pleasing... This is no more than light of life describing it's "self-essence." This doesn't mean it has anything to do with me being any more than a simple human. It's just my notes falling out in this post...

regards

[dleviwing]

Lloyd;
What you have stated is no more logical than current interpretations of our physical sciences and theories. "Matter is phased energy". This is totally ambiguous and meaningless.
"Light requires life and life requires light" is just more meaningless phrases of nothing. When you know the physical reality and the wave nature of existence, this type of meaningless nonsense will indeed go away.
I was under the impression you understood Milo's work on standing waves.

There is no such thing as a "singularity".

Once you comprehend the nature of the wave medium (fundamental matter), then the Newtonian classical views are obvious.

Physical reality is a physical substance of existence; NOT a physical reality manifested from waves that create matter.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by dleviwing

Lloyd;
What you have stated is no more logical than current interpretations of our physical sciences and theories. "Matter is phased energy". This is totally ambiguous and meaningless.
"Light requires life and life requires light" is just more meaningless phrases of nothing. When you know the physical reality and the wave nature of existence, this type of meaningless nonsense will indeed go away.

Your sentential logic seems a bit too religeous here. It's not necessary to quibble over philosophical differences. I have my personal reasons for joining life sciences into my physics. Physics without life is just dry, dead and useless. Physics must entertain the fairer sex as much as us male dunces, in order to have any traction in this overconfused world. Please, stop trying to narrow the playful intuitive so much... I don't intend to leave out the whole for the parts, no matter what... Dave, as I've warned you before, one can easily get trapped too far out in the scientific ego - come on back to the whole techno-quantum human...

I was under the impression you understood

Milo's work on standing waves.

There is no such thing as a "singularity".

Once you comprehend the nature of the wave medium (fundamental matter), then the Newtonian classical views are obvious.

Physical reality is a physical substance of existence; NOT a physical reality manifested from waves that create matter.

Dave, you are only lost in the ambeguities of language references. It is just totally and logically without any merit to state "There is no such thing as a "singularity". No matter how much physical reality substance of existence you state, the entirety of it is by all conceivable logic an infinite singularity, of space wave motion and finite wave/matter. I thought you understood this of Milo's work. These are just semantical differences here, that have no true meaning of any difference at all. You seem to read my statements as some sort of ego-centrist religion and I often seem to see the same of yours. This is just a left and right brain phenomenon of misinterpretations, which often crops up when talking about singularities, as Poincare pointed out over 100 years ago. We are both saying the same thing with different truths. Our brains may be seeing and hearing something else, as my wife and I often do, but we are saying the same, maybe even, with opposite truths, I don't know for sure. I see no conflict in your views and mine. You'll have to explain your conflict to my views...

"Infinity is always a singularity of one infinity. There are also many infinities." me
"Human reality purified too far into scientific abstraction destroys reality." me
"There's more than one way to skin a cat." everyone

regards