[humanbydefault]

I've mentioned a sort of sciece-fi theory of mine about the constant change inside the moving structure of LIGHT. Due to the relative huge wavelength of photons members of white light coming from stars the code or spatial-arrengement of those different color photons inside the "mother or carrier wave" will vary across light years of propagation.
Just like an old tree after being cut with a saw. The concentric lines found inside the main trunk as we see the tree's stump from above will give us an idea of how old the tree has been "hanging around" nature.
I believe that LIGHT just like trees hold inside their compositional spectrum at the moment of the measurement the CODE with the exact AGE incripted at the moment of its "birth." Every beam of light leave the source with its "internal chronometer" set to "0" TIME. It is the short moment [instant better] where all the frequency photons making the actual light are occupying the same "start line." The fastest photons will go ahead fast and the slower ones [infrared for example] will stay behind the race pretty soon. OH! But as the light wave reaches some light years in the race an interesting phenomenon will happen:
Ultra violet photons shot from the source much later on will catch those infra red one that were already in their way [who knows...] light years before?
Someone must do the math but I am sure that if we were able to somehow without influencing the outcome of the measurement at least compare two or three of those photon mixture we would be able to calculate with entire exactitude the distance between the source and our position in the cosmos.

Interesting hypothesis isn't it?

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

The last couple of months I've been working on a easy-to-understand physical model that would allow, particulary those interested in the weirdness of the quantum world, to guide them in the personal search for the TRUTH of our reality.
The reason I called it "Clock Model" is simply because that is exactly what it looks like... Allow me to explain:
After the official announcement in Mach of this year about the property finally observed in neutrino oscillation and their assumed mass [There is an article posted by Robert right now about this subject on the main page] scientists have focused their attention in how to replace the "Standrd Model" as the earlier fundaments for the "Human Catalogue of Particles."
Don't be concerned about it! Do you know how many Noble Prizes have been awarded to scientists that turned out ultimately WRONG? I'd say... TOO MANNY!

The thing is that I constructed [mentally] the process that might explain to us the internal structure of every single elemental quantum supplying at the same the WHY and HOW reality seem so fuzzy and unreachable during observations.

"THE CLOCK MODEL"

Let's assume that we have an interesting CLOCK that looks and works ALMOST like those we use daily to check the time. Only this one will function a little bit different. The larger arm [the one that normaly show minutes] will be the one running slow. The short arm [the one ussually marking hours] will run faster and in opposite direction with respect to the counterpart.
The reason I changed the functions is pretty LOGICAL: I presented a couple of THREADS ago a personal THOUGHT EXPERIMENT based on two circles with different radius where light would move around. The conclusion of such experiment would come up [no doubts about it] with an obsrvable LAG between both photons. The reason was pretty obvious: "IF ACCORDING TO EINSTEIN LIGHT MOVES AT THE SAME SPEED AND ONE BEAM HAS TO COVER A LARGER CIRCLE [DISTANCE] DURING THE SAME TIME ANOTHER BEAM WILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME INSIDE A SHORTER ONE... THE OBVIOUS ANSWER WILL BE THAT AFTER A CERTAIN LAPSE OF TIME THERE WILL BE A "LAG" [RETARD] SHOWED BY THE BEAM FORCED TO RUN A LARGER PATH."
I suppose everyone will agree in this simple analogy... It's pretty convincing isn't it?
The above (weird) thought experiment dictates that the larger arm of my "clock" will be the one moving slower since that will represent the concept of the greater radius.
Why moving in opposite directions? That's yet simpler: Because when you observe a LAG between two co-related systems [relatively speaking] you'll end up having the correct impression of one moving backwards with respect to the other.

Now let's see how it works:

Let's begin with the first example, "It is 12 o'clock" Both arms point up to the number 12 and both arms are also in the same direction! This example represents the addition of both waves in the vacuum giving as a result the conditions to observe a new "particle." As both arms continue with their rotation they will reach a point where an angle of 90 degrees between them is observable. At this precise moment a different kind of "elemental particle" will appear on front of our instrumentation. This one is not having the same energy density as the first one observed but it will have enough stability to become part of the physical reality. As time continue there will be a point where both arms will be at 180 degrees... A complete cancellation of energies. It may be a residual energy in the vacuum but, due to our own limitation in its proper measurement, that region of space or eather will be empty once again. The cicle will be resumed with the same procedure only in its symmetrical pattern.
This way I could explain [the easiest way possible] how three different configuration of the same REALITY comes to life without violating any rule or human LOGIC.
The same MODEL explains why there is an inherent component of space-time
involved in the structure of the alleged "particle" [quantum] that could give us the basis for the final understanding of the physical origin of CHARGE.
To me CHARGE is the result [actual orientation] of the component waves of a given system during their spin. Just like seen in my Clock Model above every "elemental particle" will present a different charge in direct correspondance with the actual pattern and density of its components.
My next post [right here] will describe accordingly with this MODEL why quantum mechanics is unable to predict with entire exactitude the final position of "particles" [like electrons] after the collapse of the so-called "wave function." Why quantum entanglement is not able to explain why the final conclusions of the EPR experiment do not corresponded with Einstein's predictions... Don't miss it!

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

During the propagation of the quantum across the eather accordingly with the "Clock Model" introduced in my previous post it is no mystery that any attempt to collapse the system of components of the wave format will produce a different result.
Could we anticipate those results is a challenge I believe we could beat and I'll explain my plan right below:
If we assume that REALITY could only be OBSERVED when the Clock reaches one of the three possible positions: O degree [both in the same direction], 90 degrees [with a square angle between them] and 180 degrees [virtual cancellation of energies>> quantum-ZERO] what could happen with the actual position of the quantum [particle] if we collapsed it in any intermediate point in its trajectory?

I BELIEVE THAT THE "CLOCK" WILL HAVE A SUDDEN RESET TO THE CLOSER ALLOWED REALITY (!)

The present probabilities point toward the higher amplitude of the single "wave function" representing the particle. However if we assume that same wave-function to be the result of not just one but the complex fusion of two waves interacting just like I depicted to you before wouldn't be logical to assume that the actual momentum of the particle [including the final identity of it] will END UP when both arms of the Clock reached the closer stable point in their rotational path?

If we could construct a model like this for every single "elemental particle" or quantum observed in the universe it would be a simple task to predict with entire exactitude the so-called "eingen states" of each of every one of them knowing the basic parameters involved in the system.

HUMANBYDEFAULT

*** The results of the EPR experiment concluded without a useful pattern of how the collapse of one photon will affect the outcome of the other moving at the speed of light. I believe that even entanglement could be included in the Clock Model. It is the same analysis of the complex system of waves both moving apart from each other (!) Collapsing the wave-function of the system will force the second photon to reach the closer stable reality allowed to be observed and that will depend in specifics of both waves. We have to remember also that LOGIC dictates that the speed of light must be different according with the light we refer... An infra-red photon will move at a lower speed than an ultra-violet across the eather... That we can't prove it with our present technology does not mean that I was wrong... Not yet!

[humanbydefault]

When Mawell conceived the propagation of electro-magnetic waves he proposed a combination of two fields [electric and magnetic] alternating each other in the same wave format. In fact today's theories make a difference between the way light propagates across the eather and "sub-atomic particles" do. According with theoretical arguments light belongs to the Boson family while electrons [for example] to Fermions. Those are facts no one denies.
But why is it that makes impossible to have a complete knowledge about the electron's "own states" [eigenstates] including momentum and position?
The answer [the way I see it] is found in the understanding of that what Maxwell proposed a long time ago.
What is in fact the nature of the magnetic field?
The magnetic field of a quantum propagating through space is the status of the interaction between the component waves [integral part of the given quantum]. If you go back to my "CLOCK MODEL" you'll see that when the waves making for the actual electron propagation are in synch. [12 o'clock] the magnetic field acquired its maximum value.
How about the electrical field or charge of the electron at 12 o'clock?
It is ZERO! Of course you would ask yourselves then... and what does that mean?
It means that at that specific point in time that electron is 100% momentum. It is a pure wave with all its energy content expressed in the strength of its magnetic field... Remember how they called it back in the thirties? "The Bohr's magneton." The same one responsible for what we measure as SPIN.
When our "Clock Model" marks 6 o'clock an interesting phenomenon will take place... The magnetic field will reduce its magnitude to almost ZERO transforming all its strength into a different type of reality: CHARGE! Then we observe the actual charge of the electron! But you may ask... What happen to the momentum of the quantum when the collapse takes place?
It simple disappears! That will also mean that the particle ceased to move and it's now a localized charge we can measure as the electrical energy of the electron (!) At this point is ALL POSITION.
The difference then between Fermions and Bosons is pretty understandable from this point of view: Bosons do not become units of charge when collapsed due to the actual density of the energy involved in their component waves. When white light collapse into a sensor it does not show in our instruments as any sort of charge while the two waves making for Fermions do. In the two slit experiment we saw that the results derived from observation will demonstrate that both [Fermions and Bosons] behaved the same way with the only difference that using photons we needed a light sensor when using electrons we captured their electrical charge instead.

This new model could explain the mystery involved in the final spectrum observed in the screen every time the "Two Slit Experiment" is performed with single frequency photons!!!
Follow me on this line of thought and you'll see it!
If instead of a SINGLE wave what we consider to be a PURE photon or elemental quantum [taking an infrared photon as an example]... Reality would be cheating at us a big time! I mean photons would be the actual result of two component waves in their propagation at 12 o'clock !
Since the actual wavelength of those two [virtual] waves are different the collapse of one of them will prompt the other wave to collapse too into a final and definite position>>> The moment we measure one photon. Since the entanglement of the electromagnetic waves component of a given photon of light can not be observe WITHOUT COLLAPSING IT we will never be able to verify their [plural] existence (!)
If I'm right every photon of light [no matter its frequency or intrinsic energy] will alternate its EXISTENCE as they propagate across the vacuum in the universe... Just as neutrinos do (!) No way we could actually prove this hypothesis in 2006 but who knows what the future holds...

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

Would you imagine the famous experiment designed and performed by the English physicist Young showing an entire different result?

That is possible in the hypothetical universe of the "IF"

If we could stop the universe and its entropy process like we do with our chronometers and watch what happens with the Two Slit Experiment in process we won't believe our own eyes!!!

All the photons or electrons shot to the screen will end up at the same location... Believe it or not that will be the final result!

NO SPECTRUM OF BRIGHT AND DARK BANDS! A single place where all the photons will end up.
The answer couldn't be simpler: The Eather had been STOPPED! The constant superposition of the waves making for the fabric of "space-time" will be frozzen in time and all quanta moving across it will present no deviation or response to a change (!)

That will explain IN RETROSPECTIVE why the spectrum and why thing are the way they are...

HUMANNYDEFAULT

[Lloyd Gillespie]

HBD, I think you're doing an excellent job of theorizing these possible states of quantum and sub-quantum actions over these last posts, as related to the other post topic, "Controversial...? Get This...! Photons". I just have one other scenario for you to consider. As you say different wavelengths of light are different sub-quantum sizes, so, what if one's diameter is say ten times that of the other when spins are opposite, thus attracting, and the outer circumferance of the larger spins the smaller circumference one the ten times "pie" difference faster? Would not this spin the smaller so fast it actually becomes smaller still, with more mass resembling a particle, or actually becoming a wave/particle inside the larger wave/particle/electron, whatever...? Kind of reminds me of a commenter's description of a category 5 tormado, that he described the center wind as actually becoming solid steel.[a little exaggerated, but anyway] Small high mass spheres spinning opposite directions inside larger less mass spheres... As you say, no proof 2006, but... What ya think?

regards

[humanbydefault]

L.G. I have some troubbles trying to follow your thoughts. I guess I got something out of the image that you've just mentioned but I'm not completely sure about it... Could you give me an example of your idea so I could give you a sincere opinion?

On the mindtime I have more to say about the possibilities open to us after MINOS events.
For what I'm going to write in this post I 'll need once again the help of my thought experiment of two circles with different radius and its direct results.
I hope everyone reading my posts lately will agree that the speed of light is the same as the transfer of information from point A to point B. If those two points are localized at a greater distance one another then it is logical to assume that a wave moving at light-speed will take longer to arrive to the destination=observer.
If we were to explain the presence of a spinning quantum of energy inside the atomic structure we would have to refer necesarly to an obvious relation radius-energy-density. I don't think that chance or coincidence has anything to do with the fact that protons are spinning in a deeper level [radius] than electrons. Would I be wrong assuming the "two circle experiment" as a basis to state that the "inter-atomic fabric of space-time" inside the proton zone is "moving" at a higher elapsing rate of time?
I think is pretty obvious that energy spinning in that small radius will have to be very dense in order to balance the negative charge of electrons with a larger radius. If we included the eather analogy at those small distances in atomic orbitals it would be easy to believe that the concept of relativity is also present inside harmonics of different levels. If we took those basic concepts and put them together in a final conclusion I'd say that atoms "feel attracted" by others because of their temporal nature. Time elapses with relative speed between different mediums accordingly with their inherent energy density. I used a sci-fi terminology refering to this aspect of physics... I named it "Temporal Mechanics." Following that idea I could see two different quanta being attracted one toward the other as a consequence of their different space-time variables.

Changing subjects>>> Tell me if you don't see entanglement as the same phenomenon occured with neutrino oscillation but instead of two waves moving in the same direction two interwinned waves moving in opposite one?
I see three elemental patterns of wave-interaction:
1>>> two waves moving in the same direction interacting in the creation of three different quanta as they go... as in neutrino oscillation from electron- to Muon- to Tao-.
2>>> Two entangle waves moving at 180 degrees [opposite direction] unable to create matter-particles [fermions].
3>>> Two entangled waves colliding in a head collision producing a STANDING WAVE PATTERN [interference] ... as in the making of matter>>> atoms.
In all cases above those two waves have been entangled by different reasons. Standing waves are the result of two waves interfering in their propagation producing a spin and a third type of energy-wave or what's the same, a new harmonic.
This type of interactions are the one making charge particles [protons, electrons etc.] The energy scaterred from neutrons after their decay will be the model posted in point 2.
I've got some difficulty trying to understand how could physicists are trying to explain the atom with the help of particles assumed to "get there" by a casual attraction instead of conceiving the atom as a perfect structure built from the very core toward the outer harmonics.
The theory using fields is considered today to be the closer to reality. The way I see it there can't be any charge at all moving inside the atom. Since all there is are waves spinning as the consequence of interference occuring at the very core of the atom. Remember what I wrote about when we are in the presence of PURE MOMENTUM and when PURE POSITION?
Pure momentum is referred to magnetic fields and that's all we find built inside those harmonics we interpret as "sub-atomic particles."
Pure charge is only obtained when a pair of waves making for a quantum is collapsed into pure POSITION. That is only possible OUTSIDE the atomic structure!
The only reason every single atom in the universe present a perfect NEUTRALITY [no charges to observe] is because atoms are PURE MOMENTUM! Waves in a permanent spinning motivated by deeper interferences. We can not "collapse" waves spinning around the atomic nuclei (!) simply because we don't have access into those structures! The reason why we can't collapse matter is pretty evident: The energy involved in the making of matter [atoms] is so strong and incredibly high that those standing waves act like literal "FORCE FIELDS." (!)
My point is that we should stop confusing ourselves about the nature of electrons inside the atom [which there are none as we imagine them] and those quanta with positional-charge OUTSIDE THE ATOM.
Inside the atom are only levels of energy spinning with diferent density and space-time realities. They make for atomic oscillators capable of transforming previously absorbed energy into photons, neutrinos or outside-electrons.

This is my way of looking reality. Was I mistaken? Maybe... Nobody's perfect!

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

Another quanta is the integer values such as spin used in QM.
Probably one of my greatest disagreements with today's description of physical reality is about the existence of charges inside the atomic structure. According to the basic principles of what we know in modern physics as quantum mechanics momentum is inherent to the wave nature of any energy-density during its propagation. Position is obtained when that same energy in propagation is collapsed in one place. It is OBVIOUS and therefore LOGIC that both manifestations of REALITY can be in one place at the same time (!)
Considering an atom made by "elemental sub-atomic particles" with intrinsic charge of their own and [on top of all that] yet assuming an alleged "NEUTRALITY" justified with a sort of "compensation" between the positive charge of protons with the opposite but equal charge of electrons, sounds to me like medieval heresy (!)
How could we know... Let's put it in other way, What evidences do we have that quarks have 1/3 charge? In what grounds we assume that protons [inside the atomic structure>> the hydrogen atom!] measures +1?
Practically speaking? NONE! IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF HYPOTHETICAL THEORIES TO JUSTIFY A FACTUAL NEUTRALITY WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
To say that we can prove that in fact protons have charge inside the atom will be equal to state that MATTER could be COLLAPSED! That's not true!

When do we actually measure that expression of physical reality we called CHARGES?

>>>OUTSIDE THE ATOMIC STRUCTURE ONLY!<<<

The interaction between radiation and matter brings as a consequence the PRODUCTION or MANUFACTURE of different QUANTA. Those quanta [electrons, photons and neutrinos among others] propagate across the vacuum as WAVES [momentum] and if COLLAPSED they become POSITION and accordingly with their density they will manifest either CHARGE or LIGHT (!)

I know the "emotional effect" that these statements may cause in some hypersensitive individuals so blindly attached to orthodox theories that they can not see beyond the horizon... Tell me about it!

The day is not that far from us. Things are changing pretty fast these days...

HUMANBYDEFAULT

[humanbydefault]

... That the actual theory of particles is FLAWED!
Please... Follow me in this line of thoughts!
According to orthodox modern physics "PROTONS" are made by three quaks... right? Having as you all know 1/3 rd of the net positive charge they said it's present inside the nucleolus all the time.
I AM SAYING TO YOU [TODAY] THAT EVEN THAT PICTURE VIOLATES THE BASICS LAWS OF OUR UNIVERSE (!)
The assumption that a quantum was made out of two up-spins and one down is the greatest violation there is when it comes to a bi-pole principle of magnetic fields.
NOTHING in this universe could be made by two ups without also being made by two downs making for the perfect balance of magnetic poles (!)
That's the reason I was searching all this time!!!
I knew that NEUTRONS were the fruit of the bond produced by two protons existing at different space-time realities from one another I just couldn't see WHY!!!
Once again the standing wave phenomenon explains the presence of neutrons inside the atomic nucleus.
My God that was the answer too as to why photo-electrons are made by equal waves that will never pass each other and make "visible" an electron like neutrinos did by changing their identity.
When Einstein saw that ultraviolet light produced the scatterings of electrons he proposed that those electrons [charges] where knocked out from their atomic orbits. I knew all this time that that wasn't the real story but I didn't know how to explain it... Now I found it!
It all comes down to the space-time nature of the waves and THEIR ENTANGLED PHYSICAL STATE!
A quantum of energy [being that an electron or photon] has to be made out of the collapsing of two waves... The key question here is in the true space-time nature of those two waves (!) The space-time nature means their density and frequency of spin. Two equal waves will never encounter each other no matter how much time will elapse... In the neutrino case, Those waves were spinning in different realities (!)

CHARGE is then nothing but the collapse of the NET energy making for two ENTANGLED waves into one single REALITY [space-time reality].

THANK YOU!

HUAMNBYDEFAULT

[dleviwing]

Hbd;
Think of the standing waves of the quarks as if they were gears spinning. Two u-quarks are spinning in the same directions and thus would oppose each others spin producing destructive wave interference and thus expansion. Place a d-quark in-between them with its spin in the opposite direction, then the waves or gears are now such that they produce constructive wave interference to allow bonding and thus condensing to greater spatial density. Ordinarily this would manifest as greater mass, but as the wavelength function decreases, it reaches a short wavelength that no longer interacts with the environmental matter around it. The structure becomes neutral and in the case of the neutrino, it becomes massless. This is the closest we have come to a pure solid object of fundamental matter and perfect wave symmetry. This object will not interact with other wave function of matter other than another of its kind. You must collide neutrinos to invoke mass.