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    The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    1.
    In classical physics this law exactly is not observed.
    Only in quantum physics this law is exactly observed.
    The observance of this law is connected to the formula E=Mc^2
    2.
    Quantum theory says that at the interaction of the electron
    with the vacuum, the energy and mass of it become infinite.
    It means that the law of conservation and transformation energy is broken.
    Unless can it be?
    No.
    Honor and glory to mathematicians.
    They thought up " a method of renormalization ", a method
    " to sweep the dust under the carpet " / Feynman./ and so
    they solved this problem.
    But what process is really connected with
    the " method of renormalization "?
    Please, remember, electron is not a professional mathematician,
    but it maybe a particle, maybe a wave.
    3.
    The physicists say that electron is eternal particle because
    it has less electric charge and therefore it cannot break-up.
    So, how can electron keep its eternal condition?
    How can electron escape its infinity?
    How to understand the fact of
    “conservation and transformation energy” of electron?
    4.
    Electron is the particle which has a form of a sphere
    (geoid), having energy E=hw.
    But everybody knows that an electron is not a firm sphere.
    Everybody knows that its form can be changed.
    But nobody understands the borders of its change.
    Electron cannot disappear .
    Electron can only change its form.
    So, what are the borders of this change?
    5.
    According to the law of conservation and transformation energy:
    a)
    Electron, having the geometrical form of a sphere,
    loses their volume (density) and turns into an indefinitely
    flat circle (C/D=pi).
    What does “indefinitely flat circle “ mean?
    It means, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
    and we cannot reach density of the electron in the rest .
    b)
    In the interaction of the electron with vacuum
    transformation of the kinetic energy of an electron ( E=hw)
    in its potential energy E=Mc^2 take place.
    c)
    It is impossible to understand the “last essence of electron”
    dividing its geometrical form from energy.
    The geometrical form and energy of electron
    are united together inseparably

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    Cool Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    Interesting points Socratus. I am not sure why you say the laws of conservation and transformation of energy are broken at a quantum level in a vacuum.
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    Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    I do not say:
    I am not sure why you say the laws of conservation and transformation of energy are broken at a quantum level in a vacuum.
    I say:
    In the interaction of the electron with vacuum
    transformation of the kinetic energy of an electron ( E=hw)
    in its potential energy E=Mc^2 take place.
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    Please , read it carefully again.

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    Cool Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    Quote Originally Posted by socratus
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    Quantum theory says that at the interaction of the electron
    with the vacuum, the energy and mass of it become infinite.
    It means that the law of conservation and transformation energy is broken.
    Socratus, this is the quote that has puzzled me. Perhaps you can explain what you mean by it?
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    Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    The quote is Quantum theory,s opinion.
    And to save the law of conservation and transformation energy
    mathematicians thought up " a method of renormalization ", a method
    " to sweep the dust under the carpet " / Feynman./ and so they solved this problem.
    But this method is abstract.
    ========== =====
    I explain how the Law of conservation and transformation energy
    really observe in the Nature.

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    Cool Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    Oh I understand what you were getting at. You disagree with Feynman on this point, right?
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    Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    To harmonygirl
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    Feynman knew that " a method of renormalization "
    is abstract therefore he said:
    a method of renormalization is a method
    " to sweep the dust under the carpet " .
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    And I absolutely agree with Feynman.

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    Cool Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    Clearly, I am going to have to read more Feynman...
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    Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    For harmonygirl.
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    Re: The law of conservation and transformation energy.

    Another example.
    SRT says mass and energy become infinite at the speed of light c=1.
    But only quantum of light has speed c=1.
    All other particles have speed v=s/t and they cannot reach speed c=1.
    Quantum of light is a real particle.
    Its parameters are not infinity but limited.
    So, which form does a quantum of light have?
    Only form of a indefinitely flat circle (C/D=pi).
    What does "an indefinitely flat circle " mean?
    It means, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
    and we cannot reach density of the quantum of light .
    ================Nowadays, the law of preservation and transformation of energy is
    received in physics as a simple bookkeeping calculation of debit-credit.
    It is a primitive judgment about one of the most important Law in Nature.
    Why?Because debit-credit is “ a bookkeeping symmetry law”.And the life begins with disturb of symmetry.The occurrence of Life is connected not with symmetry, but with breaking of symmetry.For something to happen there has to be a "broken symmetry".


 

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