[David Maes]

I also just want to note that experiments like this are great, and are a necessity to be able to look deeper into the mysteries of QM.

[David Maes]

Originally Posted by David Maes Find this a bit bad expressed.

Although I think what I said is possible.

Also the following remark:
Lots of models of non-locality are incompatible with realism.
But it still doesn't prove non-local realism is impossible.

((my way of posting can make it a bit hard to follow; but I think it's right)).

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by David Maes When having a first glimpse at the experiment, I think realism is more the problem than local causality. (but remember, it's only certain models of non-locality which reality is incompatible with). Anyhow, I think we're at the beginning of a second quantum-revolution.

David do you think there will be a second quantum-revolution?



regards michael.

[David Maes]

Scientists are doing basic research (quantum information); so I think we are at the conceptual beginnings of it.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by David Maes Scientists are doing basic research (quantum information); so I think we are at the conceptual beginnings of it.

Let us hope then that this will shortly come to fruition.



regards michael.

[David Maes]

Suppose global warming would trigger a new ice-age, would this endanger this quantumrevolution?

Actually, I'm not a fortune-teller; I can't predict the future, so I think anything could happen.

So I think there will be a revolution, supposing everything keeps going right.

(Thanks for the help).

I also want to note I think the described phenomena like non-locality or unreality are related to the world of particles, not to our world (= our macroscopic world).

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by David Maes Suppose global warming would trigger a new ice-age, would this endanger this quantumrevolution? Actually, I'm not a fortune-teller; I can't predict the future, so I think anything could happen. So I think there will be a revolution, supposing everything keeps going right. (Thanks for the help). I also want to note I think the described phenomena like non-locality or unreality are related to the world of particles, not to our world (= our macroscopic world).

Yes it could David,however this is unlikely/the revolution will unwrap itself,slowly at first
then it will gather momentum.


regards michael.

[David Maes]

Originally Posted by David Maes I also want to note I think the described phenomena like non-locality or unreality are related to the world of particles, not to our world (= our macroscopic world).

I think the reason this happens is because when someone does an observation of the microworld, things in the microworld kind of interact with the result (or even better with the machines which do the observation; cause a machine is built from particles too.)

[David Maes]

I don't quite know how to interpret QM, but I know our senses are focussed on the macroworld (= the world we experience every day). This world is carried by the microworld.

The laws of nature we experience every day in our 'macro'world are only an extract of the real world.

What the real world actually is, I have no idea.

I also know that those properties of the world which conflict with our intuition, surely happen in the microworld. But whether this also happens in the macroworld, I'm not sure.

Anyway, I don't consider QM as a reason to believe in New Age, paranormal activity, etc.