[baudrunner]

The very moment that anything at the quantum level is at rest the Universe ends. It just can't be.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by baudrunner The very moment that anything at the quantum level is at rest the Universe ends. It just can't be.

I agree absolutelly. In fact, there would be no time if there is no motion, and time is requiered for existence.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by <<>> I agree absolutelly. In fact, there would be no time if there is no motion, and time is requiered for existence.

So you are saying to exist
you need time?That means then that an eternal being would not be able to exist
what utter no-sence!

kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick So you are saying to exist you need time?That means then that an eternal being would not be able to exist what utter no-sence! kind regards michael.

eternity doesn't exist, nor does an eternal being. Time is the opposite opf eternity. Eternity is the same as not starting the race, for it doesn't matter how much you run it's nothingness. See, simply all this problems come out from those stupid concepts...

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by <<>> eternity doesn't exist, nor does an eternal being. Time is the opposite opf eternity. Eternity is the same as not starting the race, for it doesn't matter how much you run it's nothingness. See, simply all this problems come out from those stupid concepts...

You just do not understand
myfriend there is "no race"you seem utterly blinded by you intellect,you seem to think that we exist in just a realitive reality,well we do?But that is within the
eternal NOW that has us all in its embrace,and that my friend includes YOU
whether youlike it or not,accept it or not,IT is was it is,and is NOT dependant
on your acceptace for it to exist!

kindest regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick You just do not understand myfriend there is "no race"you seem utterly blinded by you intellect,you seem to think that we exist in just a realitive reality,well we do?But that is within the eternal NOW that has us all in its embrace,and that my friend includes YOU whether youlike it or not,accept it or not,IT is was it is,and is NOT dependant on your acceptace for it to exist! kindest regards michael.

I have not given any statement in the post you quote that shows any believe that existence is relative. Now is not eternal, it is the exact opposite. Although these opposite in a temporal way are the same, they aren't in the spatial one (and we must see both). And I have never reduced the world to me, I develop theories from nature, not only about it (and if you don't take your theories from nature they can't be about nature).