What is electron wave - particle duality, could we understand it?

[vacuum-mechanics]

Dear Friends,

In classical physics, we are familiar with electron which was classified as particle. And in our daily life, its application (which we used to) is a cathode ray tube of TV monitor. But in quantum physics, electron can also act as wave, and an application (which we are not so familiar) is electron microscope.

Now the problem is that no one could understand why and how electron can act as both particle and wave as show in the two-slit interference experiment (a). Armed with a new concept of vacuum medium, it is not difficult to explain its mechanism (b)! Here is a short summary, detail could be found in the article “Completed quantum mechanical theory” present in www.vacuum-mechanics.com .




Figure 1 Two-slit electrons interference


Sincerely,
Nimit
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[Graybeard]

Hi Nimit ......

According to your rational diagram .. the electron or photon take alternate turns at passing thru the slit ?

This is not correct and has been proven ... the 'magical' diagram explains the two slit problem. The concept is that there is a probability wave ... a mathamatical wave that shows where the particle 'may' be ... but where the particle actually is prior to detection is not known.

Am I reading you wrong ?

greg

[vacuum-mechanics]

According to your rational diagram .. the electron or photon take alternate turns at passing thru the slit ?

This is not correct and has been proven ... the 'magical' diagram explains the two slit problem.

Dear greg,

Glad to talk to you again.

It seems that you misunderstood, may be what you talking about is – when we try to prove which slit that electron goes, then the interference is gone (but we still know which slit). Anyway, to make sure that I am wrong, please give me the reference for reconsider again.

The concept is that there is a probability wave ... a mathamatical wave that shows where the particle 'may' be ... but where the particle actually is prior to detection is not known.

Yes, it is. But the problem is how the probability wave collapses to be particle. Actually, the diagrams shown, was used to explain wave collapses interpretation.

Sincerely,
Nimit
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[Graybeard]

Dear greg,

Glad to talk to you again.

It seems that you misunderstood, may be what you talking about is – when we try to prove which slit that electron goes, then the interference is gone (but we still know which slit). Anyway, to make sure that I am wrong, please give me the reference for reconsider again.

Hi Nimit .....

Once we 'prove' which slit the particle has passed thru .... then of course the interference is gone ?? The interference is only the 'odds' associated with the particle prior to its determination.

But the problem is how the probability wave collapses to be particle. Actually, the diagrams shown, was used to explain wave collapses interpretation.

Sincerely,
Nimit
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The probability wave is not an entity .... it is just the mathamatical concept. It is the same as deciding which horse will win a race. Once the race is won, we don't then say, 'How did the probability of the odds on all horses in the race collapse (become fixed or determined) ?'

Also .... your diagrams ... they do not take account of the fact that interference is still present even if we only fire one electron every ten minutes (eliminating interference between jostling electrons). So the interference is not caused by electrons jostling or bumping into each other, or taking alternate and turnabout paths.

Your diagram does not show this.

I have not been to Thailand for nearly one year now and am really starting to miss the food. Withdrawal symptoms ... lol.

cool bananas ... greg

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Once we 'prove' which slit the particle has passed thru .... then of course the interference is gone ?? The interference is only the 'odds' associated with the particle prior to its determination.

Dear greg,

Please explain more detail; I am not so clear about your point.

The probability wave is not an entity .... it is just the mathamatical concept. It is the same as deciding which horse will win a race. Once the race is won, we don't then say, 'How did the probability of the odds on all horses in the race collapse (become fixed or determined) ?'

Actually, the probability wave itself is the problem, i.e. wave of what or what is wavy? So it seems that there are varieties of its meaning in the conventional way. For me, I follow Max Born which interpreted it as “average density of particles”. Anyway, any proposed concepts, there still has their own problem.

Also .... your diagrams ... they do not take account of the fact that interference is still present even if we only fire one electron every ten minutes (eliminating interference between jostling electrons). So the interference is not caused by electrons jostling or bumping into each other, or taking alternate and turnabout paths.
Your diagram does not show this.

Actually, it does, let postpone to my next presentation.

I have not been to Thailand for nearly one year now and am really starting to miss the food. Withdrawal symptoms ... lol.

I assume that you could find it in Australia, couldn’t you?

Sincerely,
Nimit
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[vacuum-mechanics]

Dear Friends,

Now let us continue our story:-

1) First let us start with the diagram fig.1 (a) which is the famous two-slit interference experiment done by physicists.In conventional interpretation, it is something like, electron particle converts itself into waves, passing through both slits and then the two part of waves collapse back into a single particle on screen. But the problem is how and why electrons could do the magic mentioned. This is the crucial problem in quantum mechanics called waves collapse interpretation!

Note that even though that the interference pattern which occurred on screen comes from stream of electrons, but it is not the interference between two electrons; instead it comes from one single electron which interferes with itself! Of course, one electron cannot create interference pattern, only a large amount of them could do. And this principle is also applied to photon, and which means that each photon will interfere with itself forming interference pattern!

Sincerely,
Nimit
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[mkirkpatrick]

Dear Friends,

Now let us continue our story:-

1) First let us start with the diagram fig.1 (a) which is the famous two-slit interference experiment done by physicists.In conventional interpretation, it is something like, electron particle converts itself into waves, passing through both slits and then the two part of waves collapse back into a single particle on screen. But the problem is how and why electrons could do the magic mentioned. This is the crucial problem in quantum mechanics called waves collapse interpretation!

Note that even though that the interference pattern which occurred on screen comes from stream of electrons, but it is not the interference between two electrons; instead it comes from one single electron which interferes with itself! Of course, one electron cannot create interference pattern, only a large amount of them could do. And this principle is also applied to photon, and which means that each photon will interfere with itself forming interference pattern!

Sincerely,
Nimit
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Perhaps the electron that interferes with itself needs counselling! Or is there another more valid reason?

regards michael.

[vacuum-mechanics]

Perhaps the electron that interferes with itself needs counselling! Or is there another more valid reason?

regards michael.

Dear michael & Friends,

Indeed, the more valid reason is because of the co-moving wave of electron particle, please follow the story to see more detail:-

2) Before solving the waves collapse interpretation problem as shown in diagram fig.1 (b), let us first point out that electron particle act as wave only when it is moving (we have never seen its wave property when it stay at rest), and there is no explanation about this! The root problem is because the concept of empty vacuum space in quantum mechanics. But, we have learned (from early article “Dark energy is in front of your eyes”) thatvacuum space is not empty, instead it is vacuum medium space! Then it is easy to visualize and understandhow electrons can do the magic as follow.



Figure 2 Matter wave and particle wave

3) First it is easy to understand electron particle wave by using method of analogy with “surface water waves” created by a moving water beetle as show in the diagram of fig. 2(a). Normally, we are familiar with ship waves which occurred behind the moving ship, but for a small moving object such as a water beetle, the generated waves occur in frontaround the moving beetle!

In the same way, when an electron particle moving through vacuum medium, it will rotatewhile disturbing and creating standing waves aroundthe electronas shown in fig. 2 (b). Note that the diagram shown is a three dimensions which was cut horizontally in x – z plane to show only the lower half part.

Anyway, there are two different points between beetle wave and electron wave; first, the former is a 2-dimension wave, while the latter is a 3-dimension wave. Second, beetle wave is a vertical transverse of water surface wave, while electron wave is a rotational transverse wave in vacuum medium.

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Nimit
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[vacuum-mechanics]

Dear Friends,

4)Now return to solve the waves collapse interpretation problem in diagram fig.1 (b); all the electron particles moving together with their own created waves. Some of electrons pass through slit 1, while others pass through slit 2 randomly. While each electron passes through slit 1 or 2, its co-moving waves will pass through both slit 1 and 2 at the same time. After passing through both slits, both the waves will interfere each other while moving toward screen. Because all electron particles must move together with their own created waves (they are co-existence),then it is not surprise that all electron particles are arranged and forming to be interference pattern!



Figure 1 Two-slit electrons interference

Finally, now we could understand why and how electron can act as both particle and wave via vacuum mechanism, i.e. the mechanism of vacuum medium. Also we can explain and solve the problem ofwaves collapse interpretation(which is the foundation problem of quantum mechanics) via scientific method - not a magic anymore!

Sincerely,
Nimit
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[vacuum-mechanics]

Dear Friends,

5) Someone who familiar with quantum mechanics would found that it is the most mystic theory in which no one could understand (mentioned by R. Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner in physics). And it is not surprise that Einstein had said that “Quantum mechanics is not a complete theory even though it is correct”!

Another point of view comes from David Bohm, a famous physicist in quantum theory, who said that “Quantum mechanics should be called as quantum non-mechanics”. This is because even through the theory was called “quantum mechanics” which mean that it should be something as “mechanism” of quantum system, but it seems that there is no such thing which could regard as system of separate parts working together according to causal laws!

6) Could this means that there is no need any mechanism for quantum mechanics? Of course, it should not be that, otherwise it is amagic, not science! And by adding our new concept of vacuum mechanics into quantum mechanical theory, then we can improve it to a more complete theory (which should be called as “quantum vacuum mechanics”). From now on, we will show how to solve the problem in the conventional theory by using our new quantum vacuum mechanics!

7) First let us look at Schrödinger equation which is the most important equation which was used to find the solution for subatomic particle such as electron or atom. Anyway, it could not be done from fundamental law, but by “making use of some deep formal analogies between optics and classical particle mechanics”. The most interesting part is that it is a wave equation, but we do not know what the wave is!

Now we know thatactually particle wave is vacuum medium wave. And we have learnt from CEMT that electromagnetic wave is also vacuum medium wave, but different aspects of the same one vacuum medium wave! So it is easy to derive Schrödinger wave equation in the same way as was done with electromagnetic wave, and then what we got is a more rational and understandable equation!

Sincerely,
Nimit
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