[zeroca]

Not even any substance or matter in the universe is motionless, i.e. what exists in 3-d space within time isn’t motionless, i.e. only that doesn’t exist is motionless, i.e. nothing (or nothingness) is motionless...

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dleviwing No physical entity of the universe is without motion. Rest Mass is the measure of the inertia property of an object and does not refer to the state of its motion, only to its resistance to a change of its state of motion.

You are absolutely right Dave,inthis universe all is motion,but the
motionlessness that I was referring to is not of this universe,it is in the un-manifested-potential unrealised state,that is the nomena,back ofall.


kind regardsmichael.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick You are absolutely right Dave,in this universe all is motion,but, the motionlessness that I was referring to is not of this universe,it is in the un-manifested-potential unrealised state,that is the nomena,back of all.

Hi Michael;
I have often pondered that aspect. The problem is it is beyond our ability to observe or even influence our reality. Should we really devote our thoughts and our such limited time to these unprovable concepts? By nomena, are you refering to the unknown something or the id?
Dave

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dleviwing Hi Michael; I have often pondered that aspect. The problem is it is beyond our ability to observe or even influence our reality. Should we really devote our thoughts and our such limited time to these unprovable concepts? By nomena, are you refering to the unknown something or the id? Dave

No Dave I am not refering to the Id,I am refering to that for want of a better name the Proytle Atom,that which is unmanifested potential energy,which
exists outside of this universe,but is less than micron away!

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Like the eye of the storm,while outside of sphere there is turmoil,within seems still,the mind can bemuch like this,it can be full of many thoughts,some conflicting,some worrying,many varied ideas,but this can also be stilled,if one
practises meditation,which I have done now for over thirty years,you can reach
a point of balance,poise,where One idea can so completly fill the mind that there
is no room for aught else!Then for a brief encounter with the eternal-all is still
now all around ismotion,but deep within thereisa stillness,maybe noe absolute
motionlessness,but probally the closest you can get this side of realitive reality.

kindest regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Hi Michael;
This may be stretching classical physics a bit, don't you think?
Sounds more like QM.
Regards;
Dave

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Like the eye of the storm,while outside of sphere there is turmoil,within seems still,the mind can bemuch like this,it can be full of many thoughts,some conflicting,some worrying,many varied ideas,but this can also be stilled,if one practises meditation,which I have done now for over thirty years,you can reach a point of balance,poise,where One idea can so completly fill the mind that there is no room for aught else!Then for a brief encounter with the eternal-all is still now all around ismotion,but deep within thereisa stillness,maybe noe absolute motionlessness,but probally the closest you can get this side of realitive reality. kindest regards michael.