[reconnect]

In physics something 'at rest' means that it has no momentum. The trouble with this is that all our observations are conducted on a planet that is moving through space, this means that everything on the planet inherits the momentum of the planet. It essentially means that while things appear to be at rest the reality is that the observer and observed object have an inherited momentum and are moving together. Does this mean that nothing is truly at rest?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by reconnect In physics something 'at rest' means that it has no momentum. The trouble with this is that all our observations are conducted on a planet that is moving through space, this means that everything on the planet inherits the momentum of the planet. It essentially means that while things appear to be at rest the reality is that the observer and observed object have an inherited momentum and are moving together. Does this mean that nothing is truly at rest?

Yes it does!That is in the manifested universe,all is motion,but at the back of all the scurry,there is an ocean of absolute stillness
this is the causeless-cause,that science has so much trouble trying to resolve.
Reality by its very nature is a paradox,and where you have motion,you also have
motionlessness!!!

kind regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by reconnect Does this mean that nothing is truly at rest?

Do you want a relative answer or an absolute answer? According to Einstein's relativity: there is no way an observer can measure absolute rest nor absolute motion. However, Newton's 3rd law of motion says that for every motion there is an equal and opposite motion. There is no disagreement between Newton and Einstein regarding this 3rd law.

[Guille]

If something is at the minimum temperature (-273ºcelcious) then it's particles are static. If also itself as a whole is static, then it is at rest.

But nothing is at the minimum temperature (only the hypothetical true vacuum). So nothing is at rest.

[mkirkpatrick]

Before all that is manifested in the universe,all that perpetual motion,lies the
opposite,the noumenon,that vast ocean of unrealised potential,unmanifested,
unknown,where all is still,absolutely-Still,and infinite ocean of unmanifested awe
some,Life.Life unmanifested,of which we know nothing,and is to us A dark-flame!
An observer can never witness this stillness,but why observe when you could just Be?There is always an opposite,there is always a paradox,and this is no exeption.When the Idea is expressed there is motion,unexpressed there is the
opposite,simple mathamatics!



kind regards michael.

[zeroca]

Any existing phenomenon can be at relative rest, but can't be at absolute rest, only nothingness can be at absolute rest!

[Guille]

Originally Posted by zeroca Any existing phenomenon can be at relative rest, but can't be at absolute rest, only nothingness can be at absolute rest!

NOTHING-ZERO-NOTHINGNESS-ABSENCE DON'T EXIST.

Of cours,e the fact that we think about something, for example notihngness, impplies it exists, but it doesn't exist as what it is supposed to me, what it represents, what it is a as a concept, for what it is as a concept, is that of what doesn't exist.

[zeroca]

Dear reconnect!
Maybe my present post doesn’t apply directly to your question, but I couldn’t restrain myself from reply.

Choose a fine weather and look up to the sky. If you see a little white cloud on the blue sky you must be sure that its linear speed is the same as that of its shade on the surface of the Earth beneath the cloud, i.e. it’s over 1600 km/hour (Over 460 m/sec) if the cloud is on the equator…

Who can say that the cloud (amount of water steam) is moving with such a high speed and doesn’t change its form (shape) for some period of time (for several minutes)? That’s unbelievable!!!

But this little white cloud in fine weather almost doesn’t move relatively to the surface of the Earth for this period of time, i.e. it’s staying at rest towards it (and towards neighboring little clouds as well), i.e. we have to acknowledge that the part of space, adjacent to the Earth – where the little white cloud is placed for a while, is spinning with the speed of cloud, (i.e. the space and little white cloud are spinning together (along with the surface of the Earth beneath them), i.e. the cloud is at rest towards the space and the surface of the Earth…

I.e. the space is bind to planet and spins along with it (i.e. the space adjacent to the planet inherits the momentum of the planet, too)…

Yes, and in this case the cloud has the opportunity to stay unmoved relatively to the Earth and to its adjacent space, and at the same time to spin with the speed of the Earth’s surface relatively to the center of the planet, like a passenger in the car, who’s moving with the speed of the car relatively to the surface of the Earth, but is staying at rest relatively to the car itself, i.e.

According to this analogy cloud is a passenger of the space-body (which’s unity of heavenly body with its adjacent space), i.e. the cloud is a passenger of space, which is spinning with the Earth together.

animation:
If we are looking at the spinning of the Earth form North or South Pole:
Each turn lasts for 24 hours..
Upper cloud:
"The cloud is a passenger of space, which is spinning with the Earth together"...


Nether cloud:
If the space hadn’t turned along with the Earth on the axis of it, the little white cloud in fine weather would have always moved to the west with the speed of over 1600km/hour relatively to the surface of the Earth, i.e. it would have fallen behind to spinning of the Earth with mentioned speed...

The plane of screen is counted as a plane of ecliptic, approximately.

[mkirkpatrick]

There is thingsness which =manifestation which moves at varying velocities,and then there is no-thing-ness which==absolute motionlessness.and a gulf between
the two.The One which surrounds all-things which can be expressed as a zero
or 0 this is the All-thing and the only-thing,in its manifested state it has speed
and spin,in its 1 state ofabsoluteness it has no speed or spin,potential,but
unrealized.it is still absolutely still.So the answer to the question is no all things
move,but the All-thing does not!!



kind regards michael.

[dleviwing]

No physical entity of the universe is without motion. Rest Mass is the measure of the inertia property of an object and does not refer to the state of its motion, only to its resistance to a change of its state of motion.