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01-05-2006, 01:28 PM

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What changes occur after spin starting? - 01-10-2006, 02:56 AM

Let’s return to the moment of spin starting:
If the mechanism of spinning, produced by me is right and
Main formula for the spinning of heavenly body can be expressed as:
1. Permanent expansion of space bubble to all sides centrifugally results in 2. permanent centripetal consolidation of matter within the bounds of this bubble to the very center of mentioned expansion, and 3. repulsive force from the center of body (acting inside of solid body as an answer to the press from all sides of body to the center), is reason of spinning (See post #12, #13, #14 with their animations), then let’s analyze, what changes occur after spin starting.
I.e. main question of this post:
What changes occur after spin starting? (I.e. what difference exists between equatorial and polar parts of spinning body (from which part of spinning body the center experiences most/least press) and also what difference exists between the parts of the space bubble above the poles and above equator?)
The vertical press on the axis lessens from all sides, as all points of spinning body spin in planes, parallel to equatorial one (as centrifugal repulsive force is vertical to the axis, i.e. linear speed is vertical to the axis, i.e. it’s parallel to equatorial plane), i.e. the center of the spinning body (let’s say the center of Earth), frees itself somehow from press, which is vertical to axis, i.e. press on the center of the Earth is least on the equator, which spins with the speed of over 1600 km/hour, and is most on poles (variant D, E on the diagram). Mentioned difference makes spinning body to have distorted shape – it is bulging on the equator and is compressed on the poles (variant B on the diagram).
Even we can say that press on the whole equatorial plane within body is most (from both polar sides), as equatorial plane inside of body experiences press, which is vertical to spinning and so mentioned press doesn’t lessen in process of spinning.
I.e. briefly we can summarize:
1. If before spin starting the center of body experienced press from all sides of body equally (variant A on the diagram),
---after spin starting, the press on the axis of rotation lessens in direction, which is vertical towards axis, i.e. the center of body experiences most press from direction of poles, and least press - from equatorial direction, i.e. to say otherwise:
The equatorial plane within body experiences most press from all rest parts of body (i.e. from both opposite parts of body - from both polar directions), but the meridian plane within body experiences least press from both opposite parts of body (vertically to axis of rotation).
Accordingly, changes concern the space bubble of body, i.e. changes concern the space, adjacent to body (which spins along with the body):
Here I’d like to emphasize again that if inner part of boundary of the space bubble is pushing, concentrating solid matter inside it to the center, outer part of space bubble attracts solid matter, placed outside of its bounds (i.e. space bubble of the Earth attracts the matter of the Moon, but space bubble of the Moon attracts the matter of the Earth).
As inner press on the center of body (inside of body) is most from polar sides, accordingly expansion of space bubble (outside of body) is most on the poles (at most stable parts of it), and least – on the equator (at most moving, rotating parts of it), according to the Newton's well-known law, which states: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.", i.e. inner-pushing capabilities of space bubble is most on the poles and least – on the equator, so accordingly - attractive (outer-space bubble-surface) capabilities of space bubble is most on the poles and least on the equator, i.e. attractive capabilities of the Earth’s space bubble (of its outer part is most on the poles and least – on the equator) (variant B on the diagram)
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01-10-2006, 03:34 AM

I think the entire universe is based upon spin. It would be a good candidate for a theory of everything. But let's leave that between you and I. Zeroca, I have such respect for you. You have no idea. You are a physician, I am but a Med Tech. I am trained to give you answers to what you need and I get $25.00/hour to do that here in America. Do you know how much it breaks my heart to hear you are a security guard because of the economics of the situation? You are the only one who took me serious when I brought up levity.

If only you were here. You would have the economic respect that you deserve.
I mean that from the bottom of my heart and I'm not afraid to let it be known.


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01-10-2006, 05:13 AM

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I think the entire universe is based upon spin. It would be a good candidate for a theory of everything. But let's leave that between you and I. Zeroca, I have such respect for you. You have no idea. You are a physician, I am but a Med Tech. I am trained to give you answers to what you need and I get $25.00/hour to do that here in America. Do you know how much it breaks my heart to hear you are a security guard because of the economics of the situation? You are the only one who took me serious when I brought up levity.

If only you were here. You would have the economic respect that you deserve.
I mean that from the bottom of my heart and I'm not afraid to let it be known.
The size of my respect to Zeroca is times infinitum every post. He was one of the firsts to discuss with me properly (as some took me as a non-knowledged young boy at the start) together with dleviwing and Antonio, that's why they are the ones I most respect.

Although I do see that it is the economy's fault of Zeroca's post, I doubt his work would be considered at all in the countries with big economies, specially in USA. All of the science that is supported in this world, is interested: Company A pays smart physicist Tom to research on bla theme about bla question and then they can make a new device for cars and sell millions and make money. The aim of all this program is not Tom's research, but the money. Everyone has a wrong idea bout economy, it is not an aim, or an end, or sometihng to be achieved, it is the contrary: it is what you need to acheive your aim, an intermdiary, a tool, a interface... However you call that.
  
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01-10-2006, 05:24 AM

I call it respect. And Zeroca has mine.


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01-10-2006, 06:34 AM

Michelle, Guille!
Thank you again for your hearty attitude and your respect!
I remember an old saying: poverty isn’t a sin, but being ashemed of it is. I see nothing shameful in my working as a security guard, as it gives me the opportunity to solve my personal tasks (“local” tasks) and I do work with a very high level of personalities. The second and more important is that everybody deserves, what he experiences; and since my country was a part of USSR, so it was a colony of the latter, so it and all its members deserve their present - temporary, transitory period on the way to freedom. A lot of my acquaintances (most of them doctors) are in USA now, and they were the best representatives of this sphere in Georgia, but I’m not going to leave my country (I call it patriotism) until I’m capable to provide basic, necessary needs for my family.
As for global affairs, presently, you see, I’m concentrated on my “local tasks” + “improving my knowledge” how to offer to the mankind my capabilities of solving of “global tasks”. If Robert generously offers his facility for free, I do my best to offer my humble “wisdom” to everybody, and that’s natural, but if somebody somewhere gets interested in “solving of global disharmony”, the realization of global tasks (For inst., an experiment to fill ozone depletion) will cost money, of course.
Anyway, it’s always very nice to deal with generous people like you.
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direction of spinning - 01-10-2006, 10:03 AM

If we call free fall of solid body to the center of planet balance-saving, also expending of light with the speed of 300 000km/sec. balance-saving, as well, then which from below variants of spinning would be more balance-saving?
Please revise the post #15 of this thread (the second variant in aniomation, when the space bubles of atoms are touching each-other with their outer parts) about ideal theoretical situations of two bodies, conventionally called atoms, i.e. let’s imagine that the universe consists of only two elementary particles, called conventionally by us atoms (spinning ones, in this particular example)
There are three pairs shown below:
A and B – atoms’ axes are placed along the same line (A - spinning in one direction; B – spinning in different directions: in both cases atoms’ spaces touch each-other with polal parts).
C and E - atoms’ axes are placed on parallel planes, i.e. their space bubbles touch each-other with equatoral parts.
D and F - atoms’ axes are placed on perpendicular to each-other planes , i.e. the polar part of one's space bubble is touching the equatoral part of another.
Keep in mind told in the previous post that attractive capability of the heavenly body’s space bubble (of its outer part) is most on the poles and least – on the equator.
Blue lines – space boundaries (i.e. the line, which shows the amount of ultimate points of spreading of particular space bubble);
Gray colored ovals are considered as atoms (or heavenly bodies).

P.s. here are considered only basic variants (axes dispositions’ static examples), and only given examples of phases. Please don’t generalize it meanwhile.
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Good intuition - 01-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Zeroca;
"A" and "C" are the predominant motions in nature when it comes to atomic structure and interactions. All the others tend to oppose natures bonding mechanisms. Both provide an interface of contact that produces a minimal relative motion between the objects "C" is by far the most common orientation in atomic structures and atomic particle pairs. It is the fundamental concept to what is referred to as "Up-spin" and "Down-spin" in thermodynamics and can produce negative values of temperature below "absolute zero". This is like treating the standing wave functions of matter as being "Angular Momentum" and thus the conservation of angular momentum seems to be maintained.

Another thing to think about is that velocity (linear motion) tends to cause the axes to align parallel to the direction of motion.


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01-10-2006, 12:54 PM

Apart form the three pair sin which Zeroca devides the motions, thy can also be devided in two families: One with C, B, F in which the two centres of motion are opposite and one with A, D, E in which the two centres of motion are parallel.

I see an importance in my division. The familly A, D and E is seen n matter, whiles C, B and F in antimatter. If we do make this assupmtion, then the reason why there is more matter than antimatter is clear: whiles the charge of the particles is paralelized in matter (plus-plus, minus-minus) in antimatter their oppositized (?) (plus-minus, minus-plus).
  
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spinning disposition - 01-11-2006, 08:38 AM

Thanks for your reply, but I’m consider right now the ideal imaginable situation, when the universe consists of only two, equal spinning body, conventionally called by me atoms (i.e. elementary particles – smallest consisting parts of matter), and the most important - I consider them from gravitational concern. In the example above (post#33) I chose several different fixed positions of axes and different spinning directions, and those, produced by me, are only a small part of possible variants. It’s too early to make conclusions, but anyway presently I’m disposed for the variants D and F. Presently I’ll post a diagram (see below), think it over please, (if it is worth and you are inclined to do so), and then I’ll post the explanation.
The technique for making a diagram was following: I copied the heavenly body with its space bubble - A (atom in our case), turned it at a right angle and so received body – B.
keep in mind that at the point of space bubbles’ touching, space bubble B with it’s highest attractive capabilities – Black thick arrow (over the poles of body B) attracts the A body’s equatorial part, which is spinning with some speed), so the space bubble A at the point of touching with it’s spinning part (with lowest attractive capabilities) – Gray thick arrow (over the equator of body A) attracts B body’s polar part, which is “at rest”).
Again, I ask all readers not to generalize these variants, and not to judge severely it meanwhile; they will be consisting parts of the article which will be called “dark side of the Moon” (at least I’m going to do it), and this title was chosen to remember an excellent group, as our smartest members already guessed. I’d like to think over the subject of spinning with you together, that’s all for now.
P.s. please, revise post #28
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