Blackholes....

[Redhed]

Hi ppl,

Just a small question for you all to ponder on and hopefully come back with some good theories for me....

What do you think happens to individual atoms inside of a blackhole?

think think think!!!

[dleviwing]

Redhed;
Are you looking for the real answer or would you be satisfied with the "Hawking / Penrose" response?

Hope you don't mind the intrusion.

Dave
dleviwing

[Redhed]

Anything you got to offer would be greatly appreciated!

[dleviwing]

Redhed;

Well if you don't want to go down the road an talk to Stephen, you can borrow his book from the library. "Quest For A Theory Of Everything" by Stephen Hawking. He is the current leading expert on Black Holes. He should be, he created the theory along with the concepts of singularities.

The basic concept implies that atomic structures would be disassembled to a level of the quantum units of matter just before the singularity at the core sucked it up. Of course due to time dilation, this would take a few billion years by our perspective and instantaneous by the atom's perspective.

Personally I do not believe that matter can be reduced that far by the mire actions of a Black Hole. The uniform motion of a Black Hole is not great enough to perform this task.

This is the best quick answer I have. Hope it helps.

Good luck;
Dave
dleviwing

[paul tatham]

Hi ppl,

Just a small question for you all to ponder on and hopefully come back with some good theories for me....

What do you think happens to individual atoms inside of a blackhole?

think think think!!!

Gravity is due to a stream of boson particles. They collect energy from electrons orbiting atoms.
In Black Holes the electrons are squashed by gravity and so no energy can be collected.
Therefore no 'light' can be collected. But gravity still exists
Paul

[Guille]

I believe that what happens to an individual atom, of, let's say, Hydrogen (the easiest one), in a black hole is:

The high gravity, rips space-time in the very end, the singularity. space-time is a barrier, I believ, between gravity and the other forces. When it rips, the electromagnetic force, the photons, are pulled under to the other side of space-time, which is, I believe, another universe, with opposite proportions of matter AND ANTI-MATTER. The fact that the EM force goes to the other side, makes all the particles of this side, the hydrogen atom, for example, to change of charge, when electrons become positrons, neutrons become anti-neutrons and protons become anti-protons. Then the atom is atracted to the dblack hole anit-matter, because now the particles have the same charge, so the atom gets attached to the black hole, and has become part of it. This is what happens.

[gs_cmans]

Exactly you mentioned it as anti-matter. But that is not yet proved.
Here what we call it as the matter particles which should be the particles should travel in the imaginary time, so still having their life to go. So none of the particle may end due to gravity. We cant simply accept that the matter ends into nothing due to gravity.


May be as you said they get through into another universe.

[gs_cmans]

As you all know that when a particle and anit-particle colloides they annihiliate producing photons.(Might be little confusing)

What my thoery proposes is,
The Black Holes might be holes between the boundaries of universes of two different types.
1.) Made up of Matter
2.) Made up of Anti-Matter

As the matter particles from our own universe use the black hole as an escape path way, the anti-matter particles of other universe also may to escape into our universe(all by matter of chance, and no intention exist).

So exactly whenever there occurs an escape, this leads to nothing bu collision with its corresponding anti-mater anyway, so leading to end of pair of particle/anti-particle just by annihiliation. So the Black Holes work out as simple way for termination of the particles from life. But they get formed back as the reverse process of anihiliation(as just what happened after Big Bang).

For Big Bang's occurance i have my explanation, bu we shall first talk on this.

I might be wrong since i dont have any mathematical proof for my hypothesis. But we shall try out...

[danasurya]

Hi ppl,

Just a small question for you all to ponder on and hopefully come back with some good theories for me....

What do you think happens to individual atoms inside of a blackhole?

think think think!!!

I can proof this Theory through mathematical calculation..........................

1. Universe is expanding through some layers in loop system and Chasing to Singularity.
2. Particles were transferred in layers with different forces from Eminent Energy.
3. All material objects in universe are sharing with Constant forces in loop from *Eminent Energy.

ĝ = €p/ã E=MC2

(Here * Eminent Energy is without calculation of space & time, matter, particles and forces, just like Singularity)

I thought In Black Holes contains only Tinny particles (we can not see to this particles and can not share gravitation, electromagnetic force, and two nucleus forces). We can not measure particles through mass and gravity (this particles very very little)

Above definitions would be definitely possible explaining to the Black holes.

For Example we assume, one object (material) goes to inside the Black hole, that particular object will take from black hole after few year latter, that object may not change life (never died and never alive) and object may be collapsed during time of black hole. Because Black hole can not be contained Layers (can not share or divide any forces like Gravitation, Electromagnetic force and Two Nucleus forces from *Eminent Energy) and cannot transfer particles. There is no nucleus work inside the black hole. Our Total System Mater and Light are first layer in our universe (this contain atoms and photon), Subatomic particles(electrons, photons and neutrons) are second layer and quarks (other elements) are third layer and so many layers are there, these layers are expanding through different Forces. Mater and particles are moving own layer or circle because they have own property, own gravitation and own forces. Black hole is not be contained some layers, It may not be sharing forces. These things will success we are able to explain through Unified field Theorem.
Today everybody considered Electron is single, it isn't a single, Electron was made of tiny particles (these particles are produced from nucleus, form of particles is wave, wave is nothing here electron) and its moving own layer, that's why We can't see electron moving one orbit to another orbit.
Please your opinions send to danasurya_r@yahoo.com
Sincerely,
Danasurya

[michellemfry]

I am going to take a Simplicio view of atoms in a black hole.
Atoms would be weighed as things of mass in a thing or place that is capable of infinite masses going in, theoretically generated, consumed by the areas around it, etc. So what are some atoms to something like this.

Honey, you don't get to infinite gravitational status without some respect for some fundamental equation for acceleration and mass like F=ma.
I imagine the little atoms are little masses inside the black hole. They could move about or even explode in tiny little atomic explosions, and never affect what the hole is about, infinite gravitational status. My question is can it generate an anti-gravitational status unwhole thing somewhere else by it's very existence. Any thoughts? Any geniuses out there? We're do for one. Don't you think.