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"Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 07:48 AM

The 'Gravitational Alternative', offered by Sir Isaac Newton.


(Here, Newton allows that gravity may act in the opposite direction from a pulling force - that it may be a pushing force. This is over 230 years before Einstein proclaimed that gravity is indeed a repelling - pushing force - via the General Principle of Relativity.)


Principia Mathematica, preface, p.p. 2 and 3 - excerpt, verbatim (from the 3 page preface to the Principia):


"I wish we could derive the rest of the phenomena of nature by the same kind of reasoning by mechanical principles; for I am induced by many reasons to suspect that they may all depend upon certain forces by which the particles of bodies, by some causes hitherto unknown, are either mutually impelled towards each other, and cohere in regular figures, or, are repelled and recede from each other; which forces, being unknown, philosophers have hitherto attempted the search of nature in vain; but I hope the principles here laid down will afford some light either in that or some truer method of philosophy." - Sir Isaac Newton, 1686


(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
"Particles give me a headache." - Ibid
  
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Smile Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 11:23 AM

It is truly amazing,or is it? that we are all "within" the vice like grip of gravity all the days
of our lives,and understand it not!Prehaps we have all been looking in the wrong direction,
prehaps,we need to look at the link between consciousness and gravity,and also see what
part gravity owes its very existence to the operations of the vortex.


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Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 03:28 PM

Well RP, do you have any light to shed on what gravity is? We have known how it works for quite some time but as yet, no one has provided a suitable theory to what it is. Is it a property of matter, a distortion of space, an illusion of consciousness, or something else? Care to go beyond Newton or Einstein? What’s the purpose of this thread?


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Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 08:32 PM

Dear dleviwing:
Please refer to http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie


Exerpt (as posted at another location on this forum) follows:

When Einstein's 'curvature of space-time' is a Geodesic Straight Line (illustrated) - Today, 12:37 AM



I wish to cite another accordance of the General Theory; which states that a thrown baseball or a fired bullet does not actually describe a curved or parabolic path to the earth, when projected horizontally above its surface. Instead, they actually move in straight lines which only appear to be curves and parabolas.

The reason for this says Einstein, is that, 'What is 4-Dimensionally straight gives the illusion of being curved or parabolic when projected on the 3 recognized Dimensions Of Space'.
These quasi 3-D parabolas and curves which are not really parabolas and curves, but instead are 4-D straight lines, are called 'geodesics'.

Einstein's geodesic account of gravity is that, 'Matter causes the 4-D Space-Time continuum to curve in the area surrounding it'. This fact is formally referred to as, 'Einstein's postulate of the 4-D Space-Time metric'.


If we find this Einsteinian description of gravitation vague, it is simply because it is indeed a vague description, yielding small conceptual compromise when compared with the familiar if mysterious 'tug' of Classical Newtonian gravity. One may question, What does Relativity mean when it accounts for gravity by referencing the 4-D Space-Time metric and the curving of the 4-D Space-Time Continuum? And how does this 4-D Space-Time Continuum cause bodies to descend, or geodesically appear to descend?
The 'answer' is that physicists do not understand the non-mathematical identity of Einstein's 4th Dimension; since space-time is one of the many effects of the 4th Dimension, it is not understood or recognized what the geodesic gravitational curvature of space-time is either.


“The General Theory (of Relativity) presented a completely altered view of gravitation. It is viewed as a property of space rather than as a force between bodies. As a result of the presence of matter, space becomes a curve and bodies follow the line of least resistance. These 4-D lines are called ‘geodesics’.” - Isaac Asimov, THE INTELLIGENT PERSON’S GUIDE TO SCIENCE

Here's what false authority says of Einstein's 4-D geodesic:
"We cannot visualize such a curved space. Because humanity is not four dimensional." - The LIFE Science Library's UNIVERSE, p. 179

“The General Theory (of Relativity) presented a completely altered view of gravitation. It is viewed as a property of space rather than as a force between bodies... "As a result of the presence of matter, space becomes a curve and bodies follow the line of least resistance." These 4-D lines are called ‘geodesics’.” - Isaac Asimov, The Intelligent Person's Guide to Science

Einstein's 'geodesics curvature of space-time' will not be comprehended or visualized, until Matter is recognized to be in a constant state of 4-dimensionally acclerating expansion. As simply illustrated here and abundantly verified throughout this historical - previously unrecognized - review.



(The illustrated 4-D Mass-Field Geodesic< A return to Straight Line Euclidean geometry>.

The false enigma is resolved in the recognition that the entire physical frame of reference is - 4-Dimensionally - ever enlarging, pinning the fans to their bleachers, all the cars to the asphalt in the parking lot, the city accomodating the ball park and the omnidirectionally expanding planet the city rests upon: rising up to create the illusion that the apparently curving baseball trajectory, which is actually a moving in a straight line ('geodesic'), appears to be moving in a parabolic arc. When a test object is projected straight up in the air, it does not 'slow down, turn around and return to the catcher. No indeed. The catcher - or the ground - rises up to overtake and impact the test object.

(Illustration and text excerpted from The New Gravity/ Is The 4th Dimension, copyright by K. B. Robertson, 1970 thru 2007 <in nine hard copy editions>. All rights reserved. With acknowledgement, may be produced for educational non commercial purposes.)



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(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
"Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 09:38 PM

Dear dileviwing:
For a more abbreviated consideration of my interests in and contributions to the issue of gravity, please click on my avatar name for 'other posts by RascalPuff', specifically
'Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space"
My home page is there to be clicked on also.

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(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
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Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-11-2007, 11:51 PM

Rascal ... I find your posts somewhat convoluted ... I am trying to visualise the last one ... at the bottom you reference a book:

The New Gravity/ Is The 4th Dimension, copyright by K. B. Robertson, 1970 thru 2007 <in nine hard copy editions.
  1. Are you K.B Robertson .. if not who is he ?
  2. Does 'nine hard copy editions mean 'Nine books privately printed' or 'Nine editions of one book printed by a publisher' ?
I used the title in a google search and found many books with similar names, but not the one you reference ?

Also, this may not be your fault, but the fonts in your posts are all over the place.

no offence .. greg


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Re: "Gravity is either an impelling or a repelling force". - Sir Isaac Newton - 05-12-2007, 01:01 AM

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Rascal ... I find your posts somewhat convoluted ... I am trying to visualise the last one ... at the bottom you reference a book:

The New Gravity/ Is The 4th Dimension, copyright by K. B. Robertson, 1970 thru 2007 <in nine hard copy editions.
  1. Are you K.B Robertson .. if not who is he ?
  2. Does 'nine hard copy editions mean 'Nine books privately printed' or 'Nine editions of one book printed by a publisher' ?
I used the title in a google search and found many books with similar names, but not the one you reference ?

Also, this may not be your fault, but the fonts in your posts are all over the place.

no offence .. greg
Dear Graybeard:
Yes. I am K. B. Robertson
'nine hard copy editions' means nine small press - privately printed - editions. The heading you are alluding to specifies 'small press' editions. The first of which was distributed and sold out internationally through the Whole Earth Catalogue 1970. The other eight small press editions were sold out on consignment in 41 California bookstores. The sold out 6th edition is 627 pages duration. Working on a rough draft condensation of that in the tenth edition, right here on the net - where you go when you click on 'home page'.
Enter Gravity Is The 4th Dimension in google with the name K. B. Robertson and see what happens.

Sorry about the font, I'm new to internet procedure and a lot of terminology.
Appreciate the message. Thank you. Hope you read my work and tell me what you think of it.

Best regards, RP


(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
"Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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