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C squared - 09-27-2007, 05:41 PM

If it is true that C or the speed of light has a speed limit of 299792458 metres per second, and nothing is faster than light; then C squared or light speed squared, cannot exist, in nature or in an equation of nature.
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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 05:55 PM

It's the mathematics of how matter/light functions, not the actual speed of light. E=MC^2 was proved correct by Lisa Meitner, back in the `40's, when she split the u-235 atom... The math works, MJA, and nothing needs exceed the speed of light, for it to work. You better do some studying...

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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 06:09 PM

I comprehended the formula to be descriptive of 2 dimensional reality.

In other words mass is 3 dimensional, and when its converted to energy it becomes 2 dimensional energy, like the 2 dimensional transverse light wave.
The c is the radius,and c2 is area.

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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 06:17 PM

Not quite, as energy is also three dimensional... Does not heat fill three D spaces...?

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In other words mass is 3 dimensional, and when its converted to energy it becomes 2 dimensional energy, like the 2 dimensional transverse light wave.
The c is the radius,and c2 is area.

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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 06:20 PM

So light is a 3 dimensional transverse wave?
  
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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 06:39 PM

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So light is a 3 dimensional transverse wave?
When you study it deep enough, it certainly is___Matter/energy, ain't it...? Check out micro-waves, the longest wave, yet the least active, until excited. They cook our meat all the way through, from the inside out___How...? Go back to Huygens' original work on wave theory, for the most fundamental physics. Also check out Josiah Gibbs, the original inventor of vector math, used by Maxwell's em-wave theories and ideas, or Planck and
Bohr... Much has been exaggerated in recent literature... Carver Mead, at Intel, is the best modern source... He has a new book out, can't remember the name, but is about the wave theories of light and electricity, and the government gives him huge grants, to further his most advanced wave/particle ideas and experiments, and real physical advances, while still working for Intel...

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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 06:49 PM

Thanks for all the references Lloyd.

I think energy is 2 dimensional, sorry.
What is the distinction between matter and energy?
One is in one form mass 3 dimensional,that mass gets converted to energy 2 dimensional, the other form.

The reason for the heat is that the energy is reacting with the mass. No mass no heat.

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Re: C squared - 09-27-2007, 11:43 PM

I am doing my own work on this question, and appreciate any help. To simplify the original question I would state: If CC does not exist in nature, than it cannot be used in the equation (E=mcc) to define or equate energy. T or F?

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Re: C squared - 09-28-2007, 12:09 AM

Hi MJA;

C squared does exist in nature, if it did not then the answer to your double negative worded statement would be true.

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Re: C squared - 09-28-2007, 12:34 AM

Thanks Pat,

Where in nature is the speed of light times the speed of light?
Energy?
Then energy is mcc?
Then energy is mass times C squared faster than C?
And energy is faster than light?
Is that it?
Was Einstein right?

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