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05-23-2005, 05:16 PM
radiation and space

i wandered if energy of space could create it self some sort of radiation and if the answered is yes, then is possible that kind if radiation to create mass particles? i support that since radiation has as many commons with particles as with energy(wave). also we know E=mc^2


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05-23-2005, 05:48 PM
what do you mean by "energy of space"?

I doesn't make much sense in that pure form.
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05-23-2005, 05:56 PM
you are rigth. but what i mean is:space(empty) has an unknown form of energy which cause the expansion of the universe.(there is provement for it)
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05-23-2005, 06:41 PM
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I would like to recieve this provement. If you refear to the provmeent of the accelerationa expansion of the universe, I don't need it: I support it and know it. But if you refear that there IS or has to BE a type of energy to explain the accelerational expansion of the universe and that there is prove it, please give it in here-I would much apreciate it.

About energy, I sustain the idea that we should think of energy not only as the possibility of doing work but as all the relatives to doing work. This includes the in-possiblity of doing work. Thus, the total energy will be the same always-in acceptance to the conservation of energy principle. What changes is the two basic types of energies: positive and negative. Ability and in-ability. Sometimes it can do more or can do less. Thus for me makes more sense.

By the way if you mean by empy space, vacuum space, then, no: vacuum space has no property other than energy: 100% of negative/inability of doing work. This is truly logical. But of course if you define vacuum space as nothing or nothingness then sorry, it has no type of energy. But if you think that vacuum space is infact space, which can exist-for now theoretically-then this works because there is space, I don't know what space is made of but I think that is one of the basics for a TOE.
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05-24-2005, 04:28 PM
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i wandered if energy of space could create it self some sort of radiation
The energy of space is controlled by the following constants of nature: the permeability and permittivity of space.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...FreeSpace.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...FreeSpace.html

such that the speed of light is equal to square root of the inverse product of permittivity and permeability.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...edofLight.html

the modern definition of energy is given by the following sites
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Energy.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...ticEnergy.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...ialEnergy.html

All these physical facts point to the idea that only electromagnetic radiation exist in nature although scientists are looking for gravitational radiation. So far no such gravitational radiation were detected. This is tantamount for a search of the elusive graviton.
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do you have any information on experiments on the gravitational radiation?
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do you have any information on experiments on the gravitational radiation?
the only experiment that I know of is the one by Weber dated about the early 1960s. And the book by Steven Weinberg on Gravitation and Cosmology: Principles and Applications of the General Theory of Relativity devoted Chapter 10 just for Gravitational Radiation. The following site has some information about Weber's experiment.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...ionalWave.html

another site that you might like to look at is

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...radiation.html
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Does space have the abilty to do work? No.

Thus, for the eccepted definition of energy, space can't radiate, convect or conduct energy. Not even have it.
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Does space have the abilty to do work? No.

Thus, for the eccepted definition of energy, space can't radiate, convect or conduct energy. Not even have it.
am afraid dear <<<GUILLE>>> you are wrong. last and most acourate work of sientists on the accelerational expansion of the universe says that there is energy of vacuum space and invisible mass objects. this is explaning the new time of axpansions.
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05-25-2005, 08:58 AM
good, thanks.

I hope it doesn't refears to dark energy.

This dimensionless but mass objects seeem interesting...

Do you have any link where I can find this info and/or about these objects?
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