[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat That is a funny image Michael. I have no idea myself as to what would happen, but, I am able to visualize an army of infinite energy seeing an army of infinite anti/energy, and both getting the hell out of Dodge City before the annihilate each other. I think thats why they have different spins and probably different parts of the universe so that doesn't happen. There may be a negative Pat and negative Michael out there. Best to you, Pat

Well said there Pat,lets hope we never meet our dopplegangers on a dark and stormy night!

regards michael.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by Profpat That is a funny image Michael. I have no idea myself as to what would happen, but, I am able to visualize an army of infinite energy seeing an army of infinite anti/energy, and both getting the hell out of Dodge City before the annihilate each other. I think thats why they have different spins and probably different parts of the universe so that doesn't happen. There may be a negative Pat and negative Michael out there. Best to you, Pat

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Dear Prof:

You may have generated a premise for the big bang institution here?

[RascalPuff]

As in the meshing and rotation of two gears, each causing the other to revolve in the opposite direction, while doing this in harmony - two gears, two different portions of the universe: side by side.

Just a thought.

Regards.
- RP

[Profpat]

That's a pretty good thought RP. Maybe as they touch the energy created is the energy used to keep them moving( revolving ). Or perhaps the energy is used to create another universe. I guess I'm thinking of the symbol of the Tao. The Yin/Yang of complementary opposites here. But they flow in the same direction.

You may have something here RP, I was actually thinking of particle spin myself, but your universal spin puts a new spin on things. Maybe we didn't need all that annihilation at the beginning. The particles went off in the particle direction with their particle spin and the anti/particle did the opposite. Consequently, that would mean creation of one positive spin universe and one with a negative spin.

This could really be strange because then there is probably an anti/RP and an anti/Pat and Michael etc.

Good thought RP but a little scary thinking there may be an actual anti/Pat out there. Though I guess me and anti/me would balance to zero.

Thanks again RP I have to do some thinking.

Pat

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat That's a pretty good thought RP. Maybe as they touch the energy created is the energy used to keep them moving( revolving ). Or perhaps the energy is used to create another universe. I guess I'm thinking of the symbol of the Tao. The Yin/Yang of complementary opposites here. But they flow in the same direction. You may have something here RP, I was actually thinking of particle spin myself, but your universal spin puts a new spin on things. Maybe we didn't need all that annihilation at the beginning. The particles went off in the particle direction with their particle spin and the anti/particle did the opposite. Consequently, that would mean creation of one positive spin universe and one with a negative spin. This could really be strange because then there is probably an anti/RP and an anti/Pat and Michael etc. Good thought RP but a little scary thinking there may be an actual anti/Pat out there. Though I guess me and anti/me would balance to zero. Thanks again RP I have to do some thinking. Pat

Just a thought Pat,I have an auntie Nellie,would that be the same or different?

regards michael.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by RascalPuff As in the meshing and rotation of two gears, each causing the other to revolve in the opposite direction, while doing this in harmony - two gears, two different portions of the universe: side by side. Just a thought. Regards. - RP

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This dynamic may be applicable as a potential generalized cause for many different categories of 'spin'.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by Profpat That's a pretty good thought RP. Maybe as they touch the energy created is the energy used to keep them moving( revolving ). Or perhaps the energy is used to create another universe. I guess I'm thinking of the symbol of the Tao. The Yin/Yang of complementary opposites here. But they flow in the same direction. You may have something here RP, I was actually thinking of particle spin myself, but your universal spin puts a new spin on things. Maybe we didn't need all that annihilation at the beginning. The particles went off in the particle direction with their particle spin and the anti/particle did the opposite. Consequently, that would mean creation of one positive spin universe and one with a negative spin. This could really be strange because then there is probably an anti/RP and an anti/Pat and Michael etc. Good thought RP but a little scary thinking there may be an actual anti/Pat out there. Though I guess me and anti/me would balance to zero. Thanks again RP I have to do some thinking. Pat

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Dear Prof:
Regarding your thoughts on the Tao symbol and that the two (Yin-Yang) composites of that symbol ,'flow in the same direction.'

You may be onto something here and taking credit away from yourself for the idea. That is, it seems to me that the two issued composites can be construed as moving - and/or otherwise co existing - in opposing directions. It seems to me that the issued symbol is an expression of mutually complementary, reciprocally supportive opposites.

What do you think of this alternative interpretation of what might - after all - be your correct introduction of the YinYang symbol as comparable to the consideration of the meshed gears moving in opposite directions (generating opposite spins)?

Post Script:
It may be that we've 'spun' a little off topic from 'philosphical religion' here. But then again, I think we're doing spinningly? (HeeHoHaw)

Best regards,
- RP

[Profpat]

Dear RP;

I'm still thinking about this.

Allow me to brainstorm:

1. Could there have been two parallel universes, one we'll call Thesis, its opposite we'll call Antithesis, and they collide and make a third universe we'll call Synthesis. (Born in original sin: positive and negative and in balanced equilibrium )

2. When I spin a coin I can spin it clockwise or counter-clockwise. Clockwise the coin spins to the right and goes off its beginning spin point to the right. Left spin just the opposite.

So would the two opposite spinned universes, initially would go to the right or left, but its not a straight line but curves. Meaning the two could meet and really annihilate itself.

3. What I just said may have happened and that is why evrything is really a spatial illusion.

I will return. Best to you RP

Pat

PS I've seen the yin/yang symbol in clockwise motion
and counter-clockwise but never together. Wouldn't they flow outside of the circle if one was spinning left and the other right?

[RascalPuff]

"PS I've seen the yin/yang symbol in clockwise motion
and counter-clockwise but never together. Wouldn't they flow outside of the circle if one was spinning left and the other right?"
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They may indeed be perceived as 'flowing outside the (static) circle."
The symbol may intend that? Then you have a spiral, and spirals certainly do - if you will - have a way of getting around...
Still thinking on this with you, bumper to bumper and side by side...

Best regards,
- RP

[Profpat]

RP;

You're right on both counts.
1. My spinning coin does form a spiral curve. ( or it appears to )
2. They sure would be in sync. those two universes, just like a gear, one going clockwise and the other going counterclockwise.

That might explain that the creation was really symmetrical and not asymmetrical ( which really to me never made much sense because this was one of the things they couldn't explain and so assumed an asymmetrical creation.)
We wouldn't need all those particles which were annihilated at the beginning.(Supposedly )

If we did have two universes would they be attracted to one another, since gravity is attractive only?
When they touch alot of pure energy would be created.

The image would be more like a figure 8 then the yin/yang image however.

I'm still thinking RP I'll be back.

Best.

Pat