what is the most powerful?

[AntonioLao]

infinite wisdom or infinite boredom, infinite knowledge or infinite ignorance, infinite energy or infinite vacuum, infinite love or hate, infinite understanding or infinite confusion, infinite order or infinite chaos, infinite happiness or infinite sorrow, infinite everything or infinite nothing...

The word "infinite" could also be replaced by the words "complete" and "total"

[dleviwing]

The word "infinite" could also be replaced by the words "complete" and "total"

I would think that the words "complete" and "total" imply a limit that is attainable.
"Infinite" infers the unattainable. This is not a number nor a quantity; it is only a word that defines the undefinable.

[AntonioLao]

"complete" and "total" both imply the existence of "incomplete" and "partial" respectively.

partial wisdom or partial boredom, partial knowledge or partial ignorance, partial energy or partial vacuum, partial love or hate, partial understanding or partial confusion, partial order or partial chaos, partial happiness or partial sorrow, partial everything or partial nothing...Is the glass half empty or half full?

infinity, complete, and total are synonymous when describing qualitative properties contrary to quantitative properties. Qualities are subjective while quantities are objective.

[dleviwing]

infinity, complete, and total are synonymous when describing qualitative properties contrary to quantitative properties. Qualities are subjective while quantities are objective.

Antonio;
According to Webster's, they are not synonymous but I'm sure you are not trying to make a point about the use of the English language.

What is it that you are trying to say with this post?

[AntonioLao]

What is it that you are trying to say with this post?

What lies before birth and beyond death with all the in between expires, the most powerful concept of all ideas.

[dleviwing]

You're right Antonio; I think religion is more complex than mathematics too.

[AntonioLao]

Dave,

Are we implying that religion is the prime mover of everything from philosophy to political science, to mathematics, to physical sciences and life sciences? And is it the different in religious belief or non-belief that causes all the problems we found in the world?

[dleviwing]

Antonio;
Like all endeavors that are fueled by human nature, religion is also subject to the good, the bad, and the ugly sides of our species.

Science has been both advanced and retarded by religious figures.

It is human nature that moves all endeavors and quests for knowledge; each with their own motives. Not all are honorable. Not all are righteous.

I am an atheist and don't have any allegiance to religious dogma.

[AntonioLao]

My understanding then is that the belief in oneself is the most powerful concept of all imaginable concepts. So that one's life is really just an ongoing search for this individual identity. Could this be the same as loving oneself above all others? Could this be the same as Ayn Rand's philosophy of objectivism that in some respect implying materialism and selfishness are all virtues of human quality? It becomes a 'me-me-I-first' society?

[michellemfry]

Could you help me with the definition of infinite? I thought it was something like all the numbers you could have plus one more, at least that is mathematically. In immunology, they taught us about stem cells that were totipotent and pluripotent, and I thought there should be an omnipotent one. Totipotent and pluripotent cells can become anything. To me, these little things are all powerful. We all have them. They are not, however, infinite. But they can do almost anything. It is powerful, sort of.