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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 05-19-2007, 10:51 PM

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rp, it's not society that needs to be served, but humanity. Society is dominated by the self-interested and typically does not serve humanity well because it oppresses and excludes.
well this is certainly a truth.
  
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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 05-20-2007, 08:12 AM

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well this is certainly a truth.
Individuals make up a society, so too societis make humaity. If idividual performs her/his duties well, society is a healthy place to live in, so too the humanity at large, otherwise we live in sick minds, sick society and inharmonious humanity. So it is the individual mind which has to be taken care of first! love & regards.ls.
  
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Smile Re: There is no such thing as me? - 05-20-2007, 08:15 AM

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Individuals make up a society, so too societis make humaity. If idividual performs her/his duties well, society is a healthy place to live in, so too the humanity at large, otherwise we live in sick minds, sick society and inharmonious humanity. So it is the individual mind which has to be taken care of first! love & regards.ls.
That is so very true my brother,thanks for your kindly input.



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Smile Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-30-2007, 01:24 PM

The whole world is choc full of me's all no doubt thinking they are unique and somewhat
different,what a rude awakening there will be when all the me's become aware of us?






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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-30-2007, 04:51 PM

isn't me an evolved I though

it seems to me that I is the raw soul and me is the physical brain influencing the I.

so that I and the physical brain make a me.
  
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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-30-2007, 10:50 PM

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isn't me an evolved I though

it seems to me that I is the raw soul and me is the physical brain influencing the I.

so that I and the physical brain make a me.
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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-30-2007, 11:00 PM

When we talk to ourselves, who is talking to whom? Is it our higher consciousness talking to our lower (more primitive) consciousness?

So I said to my self "Hello self—you better shape up!"
  
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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-30-2007, 11:28 PM

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When we talk to ourselves, who is talking to whom? Is it our higher consciousness talking to our lower (more primitive) consciousness?

So I said to my self "Hello self—you better shape up!"
Hey Dear Austin:

Multiple personalities in the same personage are normal.
(As long as there are no serious disagreements among the plurality of you.)
Take it easy on yourselves!

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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-31-2007, 04:13 AM

Nice to hear from you Michael, but why do I always get the difficult ones?
Why can't I do transference? Or anxiety too would be a breeze. Even certainty would be a piece of cake.
But identity structures? The subject (me) object (not me) and the connecting predicate?

With Descartes' departure the subject tends to include the object. Here is Heidegger's favorite example: the hammer. This object may look like a coke bottle to the "Gods are crazy" crowd. The true meaning of hammer is in up and down, lower arm attached, focused on the nail in the brain, the nail, the wall and everything participating in the exercise. This is the "identity" that makes sense. There is no "me" and a piece of wood stuck through a hole in an iron wedge. "I" am scattered among the gestalt of the "world" - permitting a generalization.
  
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Re: There is no such thing as me? - 07-31-2007, 04:18 AM

Nice to hear from you Michael, but why do I always get the difficult ones?
Why can't I do transference? Or anxiety too would be a breeze. Even certainty would be a piece of cake.

But identity structures? The subject (me) object (not me) and the connecting "relationship"?

With Descartes' departure the subject tends to include the object. Here is Heidegger's favorite example: the hammer. This object may look like a coke bottle to the "Gods are crazy" crowd. The true meaning of hammer is in up and down, lower arm attached, focused in the brain, the nail, the wall and everything participating in the exercise. This is the "identity" that makes sense. There is no "me" and a piece of wood stuck through a hole in an iron wedge making as much sense. "I" am scattered among the gestalt of the "world" - permitting a generalization.
  
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