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Originally Posted by dleviwing  The answer is simple; It did NOT start from absolute nothing. Human thinking seems to have a problem with the concepts of eternity and infinity; they should get over it. |
(Just some thoughts...)
I think scientificly speaking: there seem to be two possible answers to that question: "How can anything start to exist out of totally nothing?"
1. There was only a deity and further there was nothing at all. There is a first cause: A deity which has always existed and which will always exist, created everything. Of course, then why would there be a first cause? The deity is infinite, so his creations should also be infinite. Of course also here it's still possible that the creation of the world like we know it now is just something before kind of an afterlife.
Conclusion: Everything has a significance.
2. Everything which exists has always existed and always will (it's eternal).
There is no first cause, so in an absolute sence, I think this means causality is an illusion and everything is undeterministic in an absolute way.
Conclusion: Everything is absurd, there simply is no significance.
I think neither of those two possible answers is proven scientificly.
Anyhow there seems no way to avoid infinity to answer the question, whether you call it a deity or infinite existence.
But what about the principle of complementarity?
What if they both are right?
When you look from the perspective of causality, you could say there is a first cause, and you could say it's a deity (although this deity is infinite because the deity doesn't have a first cause).
When you look from the perspective of indeterminism, you could say there is no first cause, but then how could you give absolute meaning to something like a second cause?
If you look to the second possible answer: If there is just something infinite, which has always existed, then why would it have the necessity to cause beings like us who have the ability to give significance to it?
For example: you could just say: it's an infinite amount of electricity which has always existed. But why would this infinite electricity have the necessity to cause something like beings who have the ability to give significance to it?
I think a life on its own doesn't really have a significance, because eventually we die.
But on the other hand, if it doesn't, then why does it happen?
Why would the electricity have the necessity to cause beings which have the ability to give significance to it?
Or, the infinite thing is obliged to be the causer of everything else in it.
Whatever it is, deity or infinite, I think it ain't human.
Re: God and the universe. 
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