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04-26-2007, 07:52 PM
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That's really a good joke, Michael.

I love that British humour.

Just don't forget about the tumour.

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That's really a good joke, Michael.

I love that British humour.

I am glad of that David,and I love Belgium chocolate,got any!

btw,it is midnight,and I am off to bed,goodnight David.



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“Who makest me?” she cried to the sky. “Reveal thyself! Who art thou?”

The heavens remained dumb.

She again cried, “Who hast made me? Who?—Thy image is tainted!”

Visions of angels appeared in the sky. “You have a question for us?” they asked.

“Yes, what sort of God made me to suffer and toil in this sad world?”

“It’s a lovely and beautiful world,” said the angels, in chorus.

“OK,” she said, “I’ll play your game. Tell me now, who made this varied and sensual world of charm and grace and color? Who gave me intellectual beauty and those rare but beautiful waves of emotions which I have known and enjoyed for their breathtaking meaning and depth?”

“A good and loving spirit,” they said. “That’s our usual answer.”

“And who gave me freedom to love and live and grow, flowering free and fragile, though beautiful, but then withering, faded and forlorn in old age, like some evanescent dream?”

“It was the Creator of all life.”

“And who gave me sadness?”

“HE did,” they answered.

“And who gave the world hunger, pain, misfortune, sickness, death, worry, and unbearable calamity which drags us suffering to the grave?”

“He reigns,” they said.

“Give me his name!” she asked. “Who is he that does not even grant me peace in the grave?—for Hell awaits me there as a further torture, does it not.”

“He rules,” the angels replied.

“His name! I ask but his name—the name of one so cruel! Who is the one that would create man as a precious vessel, though imperfect, and then destroy this lovely creation by sickness and death in rage?”

“He is the One,” they said.

“Name him and let him be known for his vengeful name—for in my own fine dreams of man I allowed no sickness, no pain—all was love and beauty! I gave up all my powers but love. Who is he that is the source of my everlasting pain?”

“HE does not exist,” the angels finally said, “nor does the Devil, nor do we—all simply is as it is and so it ever shall be. It’s the way that the world happens to work. Therefore, all is right with the world. We angels are simply manifestations of your own thoughts. All that is truly real comes from within; nothing comes from without.”

“There is no creative deity?” she asked.

“There is none; there is only an unconscious spirit which is part and parcel with the universe, co-eternal with it and embodied in it as the principle of life in all things. It is the connectedness of all things, and exists far below the level of atoms.”
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David,where can I find this stone of Sisyphus,have never heard tell of it afore!

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Some people would just do anything to defend Leonardo's joke.

You really want to live forever, don't you?

You can't and don't want to accept the idea that one time it will be all over.

Difficult, isn't it?
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David,where can I find this stone of Sisyphus,have never heard tell of it afore!

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Where can I find this god of yours? I never really saw him afore.

Prehaps he's hidden?

BTW, it's already 8 o'clock; and I'm off to eat.

(hm, I needed that just to keep me alife).

Not doing that might just give me NDE.

(Don't mind me; I have a tendency to adapt to the environnement).
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Where can I find this god of yours? I never really saw him afore.

Prehaps he's hidden?

BTW, it's already 8 o'clock; and I'm off to eat.

(hm, I needed that just to keep me alife).

Not doing that might just give me NDE.

(Don't mind me; I have a tendency to adapt to the environnement).

Look within David,Its there waiting to be re-cog-nised by your consciously conscious
consciousness? Nothing is hidden-just that IT is un-recog-nised,thats all!

Sleep is the first cousin of death,they are related in more ways than you can imagine.
Enjoy your meal my friend.

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Look within David,Its there waiting to be re-cog-nised by your consciously conscious
consciousness? Nothing is hidden-just that IT is un-recog-nised,thats all!
How could you ever prove preference of your idea of it above mine?
Everybody has his own idea of it.

The truth which has the highest degree of proof is the one whe can see.

The one you are preaching is one that we don't see; so how can you ever prove it?
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Sleep is the first cousin of death,they are related in more ways than you can imagine.
I already knew that (think of REM-sleep).

And to sleep is not the same as to be dead.
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