What is the Root of all evil?

[Profpat]

Actually Drift, I was using probability theory in my prophetizing. I figured the probability of Melanie coming back was about 99%.

You and Melanie are the two most predictible members on the Toequest site. I pretty much know what you are going to post before you post it.

Best,

Pat

[Drifter]

Actually Drift, I was using probability theory in my prophetizing. I figured the probability of Melanie coming back was about 99%.

You and Melanie are the two most predictible members on the Toequest site. I pretty much know what you are going to post before you post it.

Best,

Pat

How do you do that, Profpat?

[Profpat]

How do you do that, Profpat?

OK, I didn't predict that response Drift.

[Drifter]

Hmmm, I've just tentatively ventured in for a look at what's been going on...w-a-a-a-y too much to catch up on...but from what I've read, it's back to more of the same.

It's not the message, it's the passions, prejudices, convictions, human frailties of the messengers - all.

I think each poster has shared some wonderful and enlightening insights but, IMHO, to trade tyrranies is not progress...

http://www.alienshift.com/id232.html

See two vids. Number two video 'progressive tyrranies' pertinent.

Probably the wrong thread for this...sorry.

[austintorn@aol.com]

OK, where were we.

Tina's Root of Evil = 'concept of good'

33% chance (0%) if completely fabricated

'evil' gets defined from above as contrary to 'good'


Drifter provides example of 'good' to have no ego at all. Promotes it widely. Gets angry if one has a contrary opinion and hurls insults… curses the nonbelievers… (Mel, too, a legacy… continuing…) …progress halts…

This is malevolence, explained by this thread, such a 'good', especially an arbitrary one trying to be enforced, being the root of all evil.

Now, really, Mel/Drifter's 'evil' herein is not a big time thing, yet, as Iran's evil is…

The religious zealot kneels on his prayer mat, talking with Allah for the 6th time today. The mission is on; many nonbelievers will die today!

[austintorn@aol.com]

When a 'good' is pronounced, it can be that someone has a contrary position…

The pronouncer, even unwittingly (see Drift's replies anywhere), will respond in a tone and labeling of the person anywhere from 'nonbeliever' to 'infidel'; however,

this is only a discussion forum ! !

Now, of course the 'evil' doers swear by (literally) their claims… and so must do away with the nonbelievers here in a small time way…

…but out in the world, the evil is even worse that the personal evil in threads, as Tina shows and as many did in a similar way before her answer was revealed: the "concept of good" is the root of all evil.

Now suppose that these 'goods' were of a much poorer nature to begin with, that they are among the list of conflicting irrational beliefs that were made up and even, embarrassingly, opposed each other.

Take one of these beliefs [pick one] as 'good', then teach it, preach it, enforce it, and damn the nonbelievers. Evil results; just look to the world and see that this is true.

The bomber purified himself, ready to enter paradise, sure of a higher place near the Great Allah…

[Noise]

Browsing throu 503 pages of posts isn't my cup of tea, but from what i've gathered, there are a lot of personal issues in the air.

Anyhoo, I thought i'd give a stab at this and throw my two cents in the pond. I'm guessing someone might already have said this, but IMHO:

The root of all (deliberate) evil is greed/selfishness.

I'm intrested in seeing if anyone can shoot me down on this.


(please forgive any spelling issues)

[Mikal]

Hi Noise...welcome to the TOE. Afew pages back Tina delivered the answer as the root of all evil is good....I guess you could understand this by putting evil on a polarity and realizing that the other end would be good to balance the polarity....


Mikal

[leskey]

http://www.alienshift.com/id232.html

See two vids. Number two video 'progressive tyrranies' pertinent.

Probably the wrong thread for this...sorry.

Thanks, Drift.

Speaking for myself, you're one of just a few TOE Questors who've demonstrated a spirit of generosity in sharing knowledge - it's appreciated.

[austintorn@aol.com]

OK, I hope that no more religious preaching returns, for that is not allowed on ToeQuest.

1) more

So, no forever of stuff seems to be able to be, and naught comes from nothing, yet, something had to be … since it is here…

So, there must be Potential, a state in between nothing and something, something like the superposition of all possible basic fundamental things, such as strings or quarks or whatever was possible.

OK, hold it. Where did this Potential notion come from?

Well, it came to us from the other constraints discussed previously. Plus, what is the the natural extension of dimension to the 5th, the 4th being the universe of space-time?

Well, it is that of all possible universes!

Hey, wait, before going on, what about some Great System of Mind with Intellect and Emotion being a cause?

Well, it could be, in a middle-man way, but could never be absolute and fundamental, for it would have a dependence upon its lessor and lower parts.

So, maybe some complex composite creatures made our universe?

Maybe, but, remember, we're going to the ultimate origin—all the way down, even past the parts of their parts—to the beginning… and away from the constraint of Mind creating stuff with foreknowledge, but what about a pre 'physics' that 'tried' everything.

Remember, before the materialization of the Universe, there were no laws of physics, there were no forms of things, there was no movement defining time—

It was all timeless, formless, and lawless…

anything went…

but more than that

everything went… (in the potential of all that was possible)…

Remember also, that TOE is CAN'T KNOW, but we've gone beyond, at least, by some reasoning, rather than completely making things up… but in the end… this theory is as much TRASH as any other that pretends to know about the origin of the universe!!!!