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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    Universal Law of Vibration?
    Universal Law: Law of Vibration - Wellsphere
    The Law of Vibration This Universal Law states that everything in the Universe vibrates, it moves and travels in patterns, nothing rests.
    sounds good
    'nothing rests'
    Quote Originally Posted by Stabile
    - everything changes.
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Everything changes, vibrates

    In other words, simplicity begets complexity (clustering). We would not expect to find complexity at the origin of the universe, and we don't. What is as simple as it gets? The near 'nothing' of the quantum fluctuations. Why not a total Nothing as a candidate? Well, it's not even 'there', so nothing can become of it.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    **Sure
    - we've all a vote -
    and are superficially equal - **

    I almost want to say we are superficially unequal and really equal....
    That also works
    - words


    Superficially unequal because most of us here care little for money.
    Really equal because many of us here are already a part of the evolutionary structure implied by 'love'.

    However -
    - keen to ease the transition of all other people into this special place -
    - we are going to need to explain a mechanism which will necessitate letting go of physical world concerns -
    where the allure of money prevents people from release -

    - and where as long as money is around -
    evolutionary progress of our species as a whole is impeded.

    ~*~

    A road map which ensures that no person ever fear being lost -
    necessitates that money is (if not lost)
    --- then ---
    redefined far from current context.
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Everything changes, vibrates

    In other words, simplicity begets complexity (clustering). We would not expect to find complexity at the origin of the universe, and we don't. What is as simple as it gets? The near 'nothing' of the quantum fluctuations. Why not a total Nothing as a candidate? Well, it's not even 'there', so nothing can become of it.


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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Everything changes, vibrates

    In other words, simplicity begets complexity (clustering). We would not expect to find complexity at the origin of the universe, and we don't. What is as simple as it gets? The near 'nothing' of the quantum fluctuations. Why not a total Nothing as a candidate? Well, it's not even 'there', so nothing can become of it.
    potential:

    A Matrix of Planck length standing waves.
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by arthur View Post
    So, Leskey, why don't you (or any one else) take this opportunity to break the embarrassing chain reaction of emotional, illogical and silly, fruitless digs at me and be one of the first posters in this thread to objectively comment on my original proposition.? AND, why don't you become one of the only posters to display their intellectual integrity by sensibly answering such a question?


    The owner of the thread (in this case Arthur) has every right to direct the thread in the direction which he wishes to discuss.

    Please try to keep your posts to the topic.

    From reading this thread and from reports received, it is apparent that many posters are confused as to what the particular 'topic' is in this thread.

    Arthur, onerous as you feel it is, could you please restate your original proposition.

    Otherwise, this thread seems to be causing nothing other than misunderstanding and aggravation ... if it continues I will shut it down. I am sorry if this appears as 'Stalinesque'.

    So Arthur could you please restate your original proposition.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    " As a non Christian I would like to point out the legacy from which you all benefit as the result of Un Christian Roman Catholicism ."

    I think his proposition is easily understood, it just that he goes off topic a lot, criticizing.

    I'm still waiting for a response from Arthur as to what he thinks is The Universal Law.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Yes, Prof, easily. Arthur's topic is:

    For something like 1500 years Roman Catholicism had dominated, controlled or influenced the European centres of power which came out of the unification of the hundreds of squabbling, and fighting principalities. It maintained an element of order (believe it or not) in Europe. As time passed the part of Roman Catholicism's doctrine which included the history of the Jews, namely the Ten Commandments which were, over time, eventually adopted and incorporated into the Laws of most of the countries of Europe.

    Gradually, partly due to England's break from Rome and Martin Luther in Germany's Protestantism and with the gradual sophistication of societies the basis of the Ten Commandments becoming an essential element in the Law's of the land prevailed and which became the essence of 'The Law' and accepted by the proletariat i.e. you and I as the norm.

    It is the laws emanating from Moses' stone tablets via The Un Christian Roman Catholicism and the Christian concepts of Protestantism which has influenced you and I to be what we are. It is having grown up within the security and the protection of the Law, it is this laws which allows you and I freedom the say what we want and to do what we want, it is these laws which has influenced us to expect from our neighbours that which we would offer.

    It is these laws which has given us the concept of right and wrong. I could go on and on and on but I am sure that you intellectuals can extrapolate for yourselves that you are what you are as the result of so many beautiful honest people accepting and believing in the concept that there is an all loving almighty god who looks over us and who will ultimately protect us.


    I'm still waiting for a response from Arthur as to what he thinks of my famous right on-topic reply. 10th notice.


    it just that he goes off topic a lot, criticizing.

    So sadly true, and not at all appreciated by all who posted so or reported posts or PMed Robert.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    " As a non Christian I would like to point out the legacy from which you all benefit as the result of Un Christian Roman Catholicism ."

    Thanks Prof ... I believe that this is the main topic.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    You have to hand it to the Catholic Hierarchical Structure. It's similar to Pharaonic Egypt. One Supreme Divine Being at the head of the structure, ( the Pope or Pharaoh ) being God's representation, in the flesh, here on Earth. Infallible.

    It's like Plato's concept of Philosopher King.

    And the structure is really sound. It was Egypt's structure for ~ 3,500 years. Then to be resurrected in the form of the Catholic structure, with the Pope as " Supreme Leader "

    This has been with the Catholic Church for ~ 2,000 years now and counting.

    It's far more than a dictatorship, it's a concept and so far the strongest and longest lasting social structure known to man.

    Or at least my thoughts on the topic. Beneficial? Probably, it does suggest order, rather than chaos like our government. At least the buck stops somewhere.


 

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