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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Gold—what a worthless element; it just sits there and doesn't combine with anything.

    Down with gold.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Remarkable catalyst for greed though.

    ~s~
    When gold becomes a catalyst
    The researchers first applied a flow of oxygen over the gold nano-particles and observed how the oxygen becomes chemically active when bound on the gold nano-particles ... ...
    ~s~


    Gold (as catalyst) - an inorganic ~enzyme~

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    http://www.greylodge.org/occultrevie...009/symbol.htm

    "The affairs of man are conducted by our own, man-made rules and according to man-made theories. Man's achievements rest upon the use of symbols. For this reason, we must consider ourselves as a symbolic, semantic class of life, and those who rule the symbols, rule us. Now the term 'symbol' applies to a variety of things, words and money included. A piece of paper, called a dollar or a pound, has very little value if the other fellow refuses to take it; so we see that money must be considered as a symbol for human agreement, as well as deeds to property, stocks, bonds. The reality behind the money-symbol is doctrinal, 'mental', and one of the most precious characteristics of mankind. But it must be used properly; that is, with the proper understanding of its structure and ways of functioning. It constitutes a grave danger when misused.

    When we say 'our rulers', we mean those who are engaged in the manipulation of symbols. There is no escape from the fact that they do, and that they always will, rule mankind, because we constitute a symbolic class of life, and we cannot cease from being so, except by regressing to the animal level."

    While watching DEADWOOD (mining gold in the Black Hills, South Dakota) there came some verbiage relating to this very issue. If, however, foul, crude language offends thee...don't watch it.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    But it must be used properly...
    Not sure that this is possible; we either need some absolutely objective measure of worth -
    eg
    that 1 year old v1 8GB ipod touch in that condition is worth $51.12

    - or the same morality -

    for instance
    - not selling a scratched up touch screen device with advertising which states that the
    'item is being sold with only the superficial damage which one would expect from 1 weeks usage'.
    I have the item in my hands now.

    Anyway ... ... ...
    - the theoretical basis of money diverges from its current real world usage -
    - greed prevents a level playing field.

    People work for money.
    Money buys pleasure.
    Lottery culture drops the blinkers on respect for one's fellow man.
    The incentive to cheat is built into current societal infrastructure.

    Money is bad.
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    The incentive to cheat is built into current societal infrastructure. Originally posted by SB_UK
    Perhaps from such observation comes the caution, "Let the buyer beware." The seller frequently appraises their offering less critically than the purchaser.

    Certainly, when someone wishes to part with a commodity there is a reason for their choice in doing so.

    Some persons may, indeed, misrepresent their wares or work, while others give good value.

    I would suggest that the behavior has more to do with the ethics of the individual than with our societal infrastructure.

    My reason for stating so, lies in observation that no matter how principled a system one devises, there will always be some who seek to take advantage of same, Employment Insurance being one such example. Designed to assist in harsh economic times, there are now clusters of society that consider "Social Assistance" to be an "employment option". This I learned in a plenary session at a local high school when I was among a group of volunteer presenters. What an eye-opener!

    I would hypothesize that such behavior comes from an evolutionary drive to seek advantages for survival. Competition for resources is notable among most species of plant and animal, especially when resources become scarce.

    Just my thoughts, based on personal observation.
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    I would hypothesize that such behavior comes from an evolutionary drive to seek advantages for survival. Competition for resources is notable among most species of plant and animal, especially when resources become scarce.
    One fixed wage in One world currency (4 all) 'd solve this problem.
    No more competition for resources if we're all sure that we've a fair share -
    -only collaboration to ensure that one's fair share stretches as far as possible
    (4 all).

    Currently strong currencies from strong economies ensure that 1 red, white and blue banana is worth 5 red yellow green bananas -

    - prevents equality -

    - the nature of the idea (from above) that society
    (the current global economic system)
    (in effect)
    makes people bad by ensuring that the blinkered rich
    benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lw
    I would suggest that the behavior has more to do with the ethics of the individual than with our societal infrastructure.
    Personal ethics are bounded by societal infrastructure.

    No matter how hard we try, we can't run through a lush green field naked
    if
    we're stuck in solitary confinement 6' under.
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    Perhaps from such observation comes the caution, "Let the buyer beware."
    Alternatively - to stop buying stuff in the hope that if the system collapses, that unlike the falcon spiralling into funeral pyre -
    - that the Phoenix 'll fly.
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    Kill unfettered greed

    Kill stuff
    Kill gold
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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    When we say 'our rulers' ... ...
    - I'm not sure that any of us particularly mean it.

    The urge to lead precludes the would-be leader from capacity to lead properly.

    The polymerization of man requires equality -
    the pseudo-democratically elected surrogate monarch stands for himself -
    - not for people,
    all people
    - people in general.

    Presidents and Prime Ministers
    - Emperors and Kings
    - all the same -

    - stuff of the animal kingdom, is that -
    where we're supposedly human now -
    and it's time to let go.

    ~*~

    Our true ruler is the desire to optimize our current emergent structure
    - to develop mind -

    - to sit atop the Tree of Knowledge -
    from which vantage point

    we
    move
    on
    .

    Ved-anta
    The end of knowledge.

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    Re: Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

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