Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

[SB_UK]

Does it take an intellectual to knock God??

An East meets West Communion Puja rave.

Aye - theyz smell uncommon good.

[SB_UK]

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A catalyst for greed

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Gold
- reflecting desire to return back to the garden.

~*~

- it's only a chemical element, after all.

[labelwench]

Perhaps we might all learn something about economics from a review of the great depression of the early 1930's. Indebtedness was considered to be one of the major contributing factors then, and it would appear that society learned little from the experience then, given the overwhelming amount of personal and national indebtedness of the present. A few interesting comments below, from wikipedia. LW

[edit] Facts and figures
Effects of depression in the United States[25]:

13 million people became unemployed. In 1932, 34 million people belonged to families with no regular full-time wage earner.[26]
Industrial production fell by nearly 45% between the years 1929 and 1932.
Homebuilding dropped by 80% between the years 1929 and 1932.
In the 1920s, the banking system in the U.S. was about $50 billion, which was about 50% of GDP.[27]
From the years 1929 to 1932, about 5,000 banks went out of business.
By 1933, 11,000 of the US' 25,000 banks had failed.[28]
Between 1929 and 1933, U.S. GDP fell around 30%, the stock market lost almost 90% of its value.[29]
In 1929, the unemployment rate averaged 3%.[30]
In 1933, 25% of all workers and 37% of all nonfarm workers were unemployed.[31]
In Cleveland, Ohio, the unemployment rate was 60%; in Toledo, Ohio, 80%.[26]
One Soviet trading corporation in New York averaged 350 applications a day from Americans seeking jobs in the Soviet Union.[32]
Over one million families lost their farms between 1930 and 1934.[26]
Corporate profits had dropped from $10 billion in 1929 to $1billion in 1932.[26]
Between 1929 and 1932 the income of the average American family was reduced by 40%.[33]
Nine million savings accounts had been wiped out between 1930 and 1933.[26]
273,000 families had been evicted from their homes in 1932.[26]
There were two million homeless people migrating around the country.[26]
One Arkansas man walked 900 miles looking for work.[26]
Over 60% of Americans were categorized as poor by the federal government in 1933.[26]
In the last prosperous year (1929), there were 279,678 immigrants recorded, but in 1933 only 23,068 came to the U.S.[34][35]
In the early 1930s, more people emigrated from the United States than immigrated to it.[36]
The U.S. government sponsored a Mexican Repatriation program which was intended to encourage people to voluntarily move to Mexico, but thousands were deported against their will. Altogether about 400,000 Mexicans were repatriated.[37]
New York social workers reported that 25% of all schoolchildren were malnourished. In the mining counties of West Virginia, Illinois, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania, the proportion of malnourished children was perhaps as high as 90%.[26]
Many people became ill with diseases such as tuberculosis (TB).[26]
The 1930 U.S. Census determined the U.S. population to be 122,775,046. About 40% of the population was under 20 years.[38]

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[SB_UK]

Perhaps we might all learn something about economics from a review of the great depression of the early 1930's. Indebtedness was considered to be one of the major contributing factors then, and it would appear that society learned little from the experience then, given the overwhelming amount of personal and national indebtedness of the present. A few interesting comments below, from wikipedia. LW

One wage for all in a One (World) currency
- where indebtedness would then no longer be possible
(will no longer be necessary).

Since people would and could no longer fall into debt -
- people will not be able to buy items which they've insufficient available funds for.

This will wipe out the capacity of people to buy a property and car
(since they won't be able to afford them) -
reducing the car industry to dust
(opening the door to the train friendy bicycle) and with one world governmental (collective) ownership of all physical products (houses for instance).

And the incentive for an individual to look after a house which isn't theirs?
Because they are going to live there
- cosmetic house enhancement to squeeze an extra couple of '000k out of its sale -
was never the point.

And the incentive for an individual to look after a house which isn't theirs?
- the urge to leave at least a small part of the planet in a better state than it was found
- alongside free access to advice and tools for improving one's house to ensure that you're supported in your endeavour to improve your living space -
- for -
prospective others.

No car and house ownership -
No more mechanics, insurance, plumbers, builders, plasterers, gas and electric installation workers (at least who the average individual will be forced to endure for (of course) top dollar).

Tedious multiple quotations with fabricated testimonials
- spiralling costs, inaccurate time estimates
- and all this time
- your personal countdown timer is ticking down.

So we need to pay if the work goes a week over schedule -
- but who pays for the additional week lost from our lives.

We pay for the hours spent on a telephone queue to some something provider - but who pays for the hours we're trapped on the phoneline for?

We pay
- where We is overwhelmingly generally the poo$rer of the two parties in any financial transaction.

As long as this form of interaction persists
- there can be no equality.

The bullying corporation which steals rewards its staff handsomely
- staff become habituated to securing ever more excessive remuneration
and
the bullying tendencies of their corporation becomes as one with the individual working for them.


'My precious'

- the disease of bankers.

{Habituation,Addictedness} to greed

- there's no solution to the banker's addiction -
no solution other than



......



- there is no solution to the banker's addiction -
which is why we're goingta' needta'

[SB_UK]

~s The Independent~
Return of the bonus
Saturday, 4 July 2009
The Chancellor wants bankers to 'get real' over bonuses, but are payouts in the City getting out of hand again ...?...

This came as reports of investment banking bonuses emerged. Goldman Sachs has performed strongly this year and staff can expect record bonuses ... ...

~*~

Rewarded for doing their job
- isn't that what a salary is for?

Habituation to excess can't be overcome -
these people will have grown to accommodate their grossly inflated dirty Greenspan salaries -
- and won't let go.

Presumably large showy cars cost considerably more that mopeds to run?

Scalping big wigged scooters (as least when the goin' gets tough)

The financial industry have been rewarding themselves for the profits gained as an inevitable artefact of the human post-WWII planetary population explosion
- they haven't needed to do anything clever -

- with population growth, globalization and a mechanism for compounding debt - the bank (superficially) appeared to be making ever more money -

- making more money from thin air.

~*~

The financial industry generates only war
- to combat war we shall surely need to

[melanie]

How positive thinking wrecked the economy.

http://ehrenreich.blogs.com/barbaras...e-economy.html


Everyone knows that you won’t get a job paying more than £15 an hour unless you’re a ''positive person''
doubt-free, uncritical, and smiling.
The enemy is human ignorance based largely on greed and superiority.
Always has been.
Always will be.
But unfortunately, human ignorance can not be fought (as one might think) with human intelligence.

Kill money

[SB_UK]

Everyone knows that you won’t get a job paying more than £15 an hour unless you’re a ''positive person''
doubt-free, uncritical, and smiling.
The enemy is human ignorance based largely on greed and superiority.
Always has been.
Always will be.
But unfortunately, human ignorance can not be fought (as one might think) with human intelligence.

Kill money

But unfortunately, human ignorance can not be fought (as one might think) with human intelligence.

--- exactly --- so ---

'- to have eyes which cannot see
ears which cannot hear'

- just as one cannot communicate meaningfully with a stick insect -
high reason with dull ignorance will not work.

But unfortunately, human ignorance can not be fought (as one might think) with human intelligence.

[SB_UK]

Always has been.

Always will be -
- until we learn to communicate to learn to teach.

[racecar]

http://books.google.com/books?id=--8...esult&resnum=5