Truth is Timeless

[AntonioLao]

Then how does a lawyer get away with only circumstantial evidence to find the truth?

[melanie]

The non-existent mind makes up time...To make things appear separate in space.

[austintorn@aol.com]

What doesn't exist can't do or produce anything, for it is not here.

[jag]

Then how does a lawyer get away with only circumstantial evidence to find the truth?

AntonioLao,

If truth is to be defined by the court system then you make my case. The truth can be seen as the facts of the case. But the truth is only seen through the prism of the facts as presented in the case. I think the standard for facts is pretty low in most court actions LOL.

On the other hand I think that the standard is much higher in the scientific comunity. Experimentally proven facts are almost always pretty good snapshots of a portion of the truth. We are only seeing bits and piecies but more is coming soon.

jag

[jag]

The non-existent mind makes up time...To make things appear separate in space.

Hi melanie,

It will continue to happen wether my illusionary self believes anything or not. I'm sorry that's an illusion calling an illusion an illusion. It all starts with a triangle. Is that something?

I don't Know but I believe.

jag

[melanie]

Originally Posted by melanie
The non-existent mind makes up time...To make things appear separate in space.

jag:

Hi melanie,

It will continue to happen wether my illusionary self believes anything or not.
I'm sorry that's an illusion calling an illusion an illusion.
It all starts with a triangle.
Is that something?

I don't Know but I believe.

Hi jag

The word 'illusion' is conceptual but 'something' unseen unheard not a concept, not a thought knows each and every thought / concept as it arises.

It cannot be claimed or qualified, not as a state, as a lie, as a truth, as a dream, as Oneness, as an illusion.
Thinking that you can qualify IT is itself illusion.

If that what knows Itself as illusion may be called 'an illusion that knows it is an illusion'
then the more commonly used label 'Awareness' might do just fine.

If all is illusion ..or not true.. then the statement that all is illusion is itself not true, which makes such a statement meaningless..
It all adds up to Zer0 ... to Not Knowing .. to Mystery.

That's my definition of illusion.......mel.

[melanie]

What doesn't exist can't do or produce anything, for it is not here.

What doesn't exist can't exist including 'awareness' or 'all is one' for even one-thing cannot exist.
So nothing would be 'there' for things to exist other that in this dream called 'here'.

[Mikal]

Its an experimental fact that if you step off the edge of a cliff, you will violate the laws of gravity and space. The truth it will produce will bring into focus your body either badly damaged or a fatal injury that will kill you. If you live through this you may get the opportunity to expand a truth, however if you die...you just leave a record for others... of a TRUTH....


Mikal

[AntonioLao]

The truth it will produce will bring into focus

it is the truth that prompted the Wright Brothers to invent the airplane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Brothers

[Mikal]

Yes Antonio...proof that what does not exist always has the possibility and the probability to exist in a probable future. It takes the mind/thought and hands to bring it into focus as a thing that will exist so essentially there is no such thing as "can't exist."


Mikal