Can Faith Fold Space?

[jag]

And Jesus said unto them,"If ye have faith as a grain mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove;And nothing shall be impossible unto you.

But under what conditions could we wield such power?

Could we use it to just be 100 million light years away?
Not travel there, be there. Fold the space through faith.
Bring it to you.

" You will begin to touch heaven, Jonathan,
in the moment that you touch perfect speed.
and that isn't flying a thousand miles an hour, or a million, or flying at the speed of light. Because any number
is a limit, and perfection doesn't have limits.
Perfect speed, my son, is being there." Jonathan Livingston Seagull

jag

[dleviwing]

The only space that faith is going to fold is that space between your ears!

Anyone who believes in an omnipotent god, who creates defective humans, and then castigates them for their mistakes, is not going to be swayed by a rational argument they've already abandoned logic.

[Unreal Zelta]

The only space that faith is going to fold is that space between your ears!

Anyone who believes in an omnipotent god, who creates defective humans, and then castigates them for their mistakes, is not going to be swayed by a rational argument they've already abandoned logic.

I agree with Dave; faith is an ideal of sentimental reasoning (illogical). Any form of reasoning cannot alter spacetime. they are merely used to make our lives more enjoyable, yes humans are hedonistic.

regards

Zelta

[jag]

The only space that faith is going to fold is that space between your ears!

Anyone who believes in an omnipotent god, who creates defective humans, and then castigates them for their mistakes, is not going to be swayed by a rational argument they've already abandoned logic.

Hi David,

The space between my ears is the same space that is
between yours and everyone else's ears. It's the only space
there is. Part of the illusion is that space is ''out there" in
some far flung universe with no end. It's all in our heads!

If a child starts down a path that will lead to pain and
suffering and he is lucky enough to have a father try to put
him on a path toward peace and happiness I wouldn't
consider that to be a punishment. I don't believe God, our
father, is in the business of punishing his children. It is not
logical to think that God created us with the "defect" of free
will so that when we stray into pain and suffering he can punish us. We can always choose or own path and the faith
we have in our father determines the extent to which he
can help us.

jag

[AntonioLao]

Effective reaction derived from passively active faith must also allow time to go backward into the past as a complete knowledge of spacetime history of closed Feynman's path integral.

[jag]

I agree with Dave; faith is an ideal of sentimental reasoning (illogical). Any form of reasoning cannot alter spacetime. they are merely used to make our lives more enjoyable, yes humans are hedonistic.

regards

Zelta

Hi Zelta,

It is logical to have faith in things and ideas like science, mathematics and the basic goodness of life, to name a few. I agree that faith does not rest on logical proof or material evidence, sometimes, but If I have a confident belief in the , truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing THAT IS FAITH and it is logical.

This thing we all see, is being created and it is evolving. Having faith in that idea makes me happy, or should I say, It pleases me.

Any form of awakening will alter our preception of specetime and therefore alter spacetime as we now know it. I think that the sky is the limit but then I have a lot of faith. No where near enough to fold space but then I don't consider myself to be a very highly evolved being.

It just takes a small leap of faith to get it started
and before you know it we'll be there.

jag

[AntonioLao]

My personal faith allows me to fold confidently at arm reach an 8.5 by 11 inches piece of paper. But folding a piece of paper the size of the universe can only be attempted by the theory of general relativity. Yet the total curvature of spacetime into a full complete circle is found only in the infinitesimal quantum foam domains of the spacetime continuum as described in a theory of quantized fields for squares of energy.

[jag]

My personal faith allows me to fold confidently at arm reach an 8.5 by 11 inches piece of paper. But folding a piece of paper the size of the universe can only be attempted by the theory of general relativity. Yet the total curvature of spacetime into a full complete circle is found only in the infinitesimal quantum foam domains of the spacetime continuum as described in a theory of quantized fields for squares of energy.

HI Antonio,

I think I hear what you're sayin'. I agree that it all has to fit and work together or else it will come into conflict with our knowledge and faith up to this point. But have we not folded space just a little bit since the 1800's when it may have taken 6 months to travel to New York on horse back? Now we can make in about 6 hours on a jet.

I've heard it said that it is a smaller world now.

What are the objects of our faith in this regard? Are they things like, horses, ships, cars, airplanes, jets? What's next? Maybe anti-gravity jets that can make to New York in 6 minutes or worm holes that will enable us to make it to mars in a couple of days. Would this not be folding space? Bringing things in a little closer.

The definition of folding: A bird bringing in its wings.

jag

[AntonioLao]

The speed needed for complete spacetime folding is superluminal.

[jag]

The speed needed for complete spacetime folding is superluminal.

Hi Antonio,

Folding space has nothing to do with speed. It's more like a telescope focussing on something, when you bring it in closer you only chang your perception of the space in real time.

jag