Faith and Religion

[melanie]

Do you hate yourself?

Harassing, slandering, libeling, stalking, abusing, killing or otherwise harming a human being or other living creature in the name of religion, God, Allah, Jesus, the Bible, the Koran or some other religious idea or artifact is evil, period. There simply is no excuse, no justification and no rationale that makes these abuses and transgressions righteous and moral. You are committing evil, and you will suffer for it at some point, by your own conscience at the very least.

You are also sullying and defaming whatever ideology you are defending by making it human-hating and life-destroying. Regardless of what you have been taught, your ideology is not more important than the human being you are debasing, denigrating and demeaning. No religion or ideology feels pain - not even a god feels pain - but human beings certainly do. You are causing pain to a living, breathing being over something that does not feel pain. Have you not heard, "As you sow, so shall you reap?"



Your ideology is only as worthy as its treats the individual human being. Nay, as it treats even animals. As Abraham Lincoln once said:

"I care not for a man's religion whose dog or cat are not the better for it."

In any event, if you find yourself merely tempted to abuse another human being or other living creature in the name of your religion, God, son of God and/or prophet, you have already stained and shamed your ideology by your thoughts of violence and hatred.

Think twice or however many times you need to remove these hateful and violent thoughts against your fellow human being. If your ideology teaches anger and hatred towards human beings, it is unworthy of following. You are full of self-hatred, as you hate your fellow human being, because you have been taught that human beings in general are "wretched sinners," and you are one of them. Your ideology is not godly or divine. It is ugly, vicious and evil. And it is making you all of those things. Throw it away as the garbage it has become. Join the human race and practice love, tolerance, patience and acceptance of your fellow human beings and other living creatures.



Acharya S/D.M. Murdock
Author, "The Christ Conspiracy," "Suns of God," "Who Was Jesus?," "Christ in Egypt" and "Jesus as the Sun"

[MikeInfinity]

As you sew you shall also reap indeed?

Firstly let us live in the present, for LOVE keeps no record of evil.

If what you do is good then good shall come from it. If there is anything from the past that evil sprang from, then evil was the seed.
In surveying history let us be emotionaly detached, for this emotional attachment to the actions of another was and is the cause of the violence of which you speak.
To be continued...

[MikeInfinity]

...continued.

This would appear to be another attack on Christianity, and all other religions which have had a violent past and violent foundations.

You are committing evil... you will suffer ... You are full of self-hatred... you need to remove these hateful and violent thoughts...Your ideology is not godly or divine...It is ugly, vicious and evil...

Are these remarks an act of...

...love, tolerance, patience and acceptance of your fellow human beings...?

If the person who wrote the first set of remarks were to say... "Burn him alive!" Or... " Hang him!!!" or.."Crucify him!" I wouldn’t be surprised.
For those first set of remarks was of the same spirit and the exact principle which preceded the terrible violence of which you speak.

In order for we as humans to be truly benevolent, we must be benevolent with our words. "For a out of a man's mouth speak the abundance of his heart".

Jesus also said, "Judge not, for whatever you judge- judgment will return to you."

This statement is an easy way to monitor the progress of our ascension into a being of unconditional Love.
Surely whoever's mouth those sorts of words originate from, those words were also meant for. If I scream "I hate you!" Would I be exhibiting signs of self-hatred? What type of person meaningfully tells another person, "you're stupid"? A stupid person? Or maybe just a person who hasn’t attained the mastery of self, self-control.
There is no reward in such phrases; so why would I use them? If I were to say, "Could I please have a cup of water?", there is a possibility of reward.

I was a very unhappy and a person who knew very little about truth, beauty, and goodness. I started as a born again Christian and I am now a free thinker. But please take note, I did not become a free thinker because religion and the God of religion failed me, or was an inadequate avenue for the peace I sought; I became a free thinker because religion and the God thereof saved me and loved me enough to set me free.

When man gives God all that he has, then does God make that man more than he is.

A quote from The Urantia Book

"When you seek Me with your whole heart, then you will find Me."

I found God. He was in a very very far off place. I had to travel many days to find Him. I will give you a before and after look of How I'm not who I was:

Before God I seldom took baths- which I hated myself for (just didn’t feel like it-LAZINESS).
After God- I bathe daily sometimes twice.- Catch me morning, noon or night, I will smell like nectar.

Before God my house was so filthy all four of the legs on my bed didn’t touch the ground because I shoved everything that was on the floor under it. I called that cleaning up. (There was everything from pizza crust to dirty underwear and worse under there. Girls would come over and say, "what's that smell?" 'What smell?' I would say- I couldn’t smell it! And I hated myself for it.)
After God- I dust several times a week. My house is so clean people call me a neat freak; and I love it!

B4God-Nightmares-----------After God- Sweet Dreams
B4God-Scared of death------After God- Fearless
B4God-Out of shape---------After God- Hot bod!!
B4God-Sucked at sports-----After God- Goal!! 3-Pointer!! Touchdown!!
B4God-No Money------------After God- Swipe!
B4God-"She looks okay"------After God- "Oh my God is that your girlfriend!"

I'm an ex-smoker and I have inventions that will blow you away.
Again:

When man gives God all that he has, then does God make that man more than he is.

Start at any point within a circle, and move in any direction- if you follow a straight path you will eventually leave the confines of that circle. The same is true with religion. I conclude with another quote from The Urantia Book:

Religion is so vital that it persists in the absence of learning. It lives in spite of its contamination with erroneous cosmologies and false philosophies; it survives even the confusion of metaphysics. In and through all the historic vicissitudes of religion there ever persists that which is indispensable to human progress and survival: the ethical conscience and the moral consciousness.

[melanie]

In surveying history let us be emotionaly detached for this emotional attachment to the actions of another was and is the cause of the violence of which you speak.

The Law of Conscious Detachment.
Buddha's earthly teachings are best summarized with one of his statements, "It is your resistance to what is that causes your suffering." and by suffering, he meant everything that doesn't work in your life; relationship problems, loss of loved ones, loneliness, sickness, accidents, guilt, monetary hardship, unfulfilled desires, and so on. When you accept what is, you accept the unalterable realities in your life without resisting them. Some things are facts. They exist, and no matter how much you resist them, there is nothing you are going to be able to do about them. Change what you can change, but have the wisdom to accept unalterable situations as they are, without wasting mental or physical energy attempting to change what you cannot change. Out of acceptance comes involved detachment. The ability to enjoy all the positive aspects of life, but to allow the negative to flow through you with out resistance and without affecting you.

Humans are "being" "humaning"

WE and every other life form are eternal presence ''BEINGNESS''



The world is our mirror, what we believe about ourselves will always be reflected right back at us.

Only when we have had enough of all the hurting, will we ''wake up'' to the dream........

And after we have woken -up?

Before enlightenment __ ''chop wood carry water''
After enlightenment __ ''chop wood carry water''

I'd like to add a little extra punch to the after enlightenment line ...
''chop wood carry water while rolling on the floor laughing my ass off'' ...... lol

Things are changing, but nothing changes, and still there are changes....in reality, nothing ever changes.

Anyway, mike, i'm very happy for you, and for anyone else who finds 'God'... aka their real self.

[MikeInfinity]

Thanks Melanie, you really had me sweating for a moment.

Before enlightenment __ ''chop wood carry water''
After enlightenment __ ''chop wood carry water''

This is exactly what happened to me like you said, nothing changed.
I just seize the moment these days. Instead of fleeing from it.

'God'... aka their real self.

I did learn God was my true self, but as humans we seek logical explanations of our origin and the origin of all material things. For if I showed a young child an apple and the child would ask me, "where did it come from?" and I say, 'nowhere, and no, it didn't come from a tree either'- the child would forever search for the origin of that apple in an attempt to better understand it.

The same is with humans and our origin.

I understand that what ever is inside of me, that spark of life- that piece of divinity- that fragment of God, is also me. So it is futile to identify myself apart from IT.

Consider a circle drawn by hand. The drafter must begin at a point and return to it in order to complete it. The part of the circle that was the point of origin is now lost within the circumference itself. So now so many ask, "Where is God?" ...even after I found God I continued to ask. Until I understood that the point of origin I sought would be forever lost within the circumference. To ease the pain of having no heritage and no legacy I drew a point on the circumference and said "This is the origin." and I named it God for a lack of a better name. Was the point of origin I circumscribed at all different from the original point of origin? No. I can now see the nature and the course of the original point of origin. I know it need not be highlighted for the circle to be complete, if anything it makes the circle seem broken and divided. But what it does do is allow the seeker of the point of origin to be satisfied, and to find what the seeker sought.

[melanie]

I have inventions that will blow you away.
Again:

When man gives God all that he has, then does God make that man more than he is.

I like that quote: It's very true.


This post is a general statement, not speaking for anyone specific.

Only when we unclog the debris of the mind - the conceptual overlay that has built up, which no longer serves any real purpose in us, except to say it gives us our 'identity'
But by deliberately becoming a 'nobody' we are consciously helping ourselves to become a clear creative channel for infinite free energy to flow through us,
allowing for endless possibilities to become potential.

We can't move or act freely, if we are clinging on to old energies, like past and painful memories.

And as they say, when one is at rock bottom, there's only one way out.
Same is true for when one is flying too high, one can easily crash and burn.
The trick is to find perfect equilibrium, this has been a lesson in my own personal life experiencing.
--- like what is states in the ''Law of Conscious Detachment'' quote.
We must allow for the ocean of ''life'' to wash over us without getting too caught up within it's deeper unseen undercurrents.

It's like becoming lucid within the dream, where we are now consciously controlling our own lives and emotions, rather than letting life and emotions control us.

We have more power within us than we could ever possibly realize, but more too often we give our power away to influential forces outside of ourselves.
The world is out to bleed you, you have to forcefully take back your own personal power.
Otherwise you become lost in the fog of ''herd mentality''
Even if it does mean walking in the opposite direction,
we should never be afraid to ask the hard and difficult questions.
Because nothing matters at the end of the day,what have we got to lose, we are never alone, especially once we have found our true self.

Be your own best friend, then you'll always be accompanied by some one you like.

'' You begin saving the world by saving one person at a time; all else is grandiose romanticism or politics ''

That person is 'you'

best to you mike.

[melanie]

I guess all that enlightenment works kinda like my dad used to tell me: "Do as I say, not as I do."

I would also like to express how ''arrogance'' is very much a big player of the human ego as exposed in the above quote.

As long as we are living arrogant ''self righteous-puffed up'' silly pride lives, we will never move beyond the 'misery self'
We are nothing but opinionated egos competing for 'first position' ......what futile nonsense this is.


''THE BIBLE'' for instance .. is imho an Instruction Manual for Living.

Those with eyes that see, and ears that hear, will understand it's message, otherwise let the fools mock or reject it.

It's the most beautiful manual in the world .. A FREE GIFT.
All unwanted gifts are returned to sender.

And just as we wouldn't dream of assembling a piece of complicated flat-pack furniture, without first reading the instruction manual...
We can't even begin to move beyond 2-D flatland living.



The above image can be interpreted/understood ''two'' ways.
Sometimes we forget to look at ''both'' sides of a story.

“Genius might be the ability to say a profound thing in a simple way.”

[MikeInfinity]

We can't even begin to move beyond 2-D flatland living.

I can read between lines very well. I read this book, Flatland- A romance of many dimensions.

I don’t think I was ever supposed to pick that book up, it just wasn't meant for an iscosolies triangle with an angle as acute as mine to ever grasp, surely not to transcend 2d dimensions to the point of extreme appreciation of 3d space and further into the fourth. Remember if I appear to be a sphere to you now, I am a hypersphere in hyper-spaceland where I reside.

Sweet Dreams.