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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    So then, love is a lower emotion? I am blind, you are not, and dont love because it's too lowly?QUOTE]


    Love is an emotion, useful at times but not entirely necessary
    As an attachment it has suffering as its opposite.
    We suffer when we don't get what we want,
    when we get what we don't want we suffer too.

    If it were possible to prolong any pleasurable experience enough, it would be accompanied by boredom, which is a form of suffering.
    Siddhartha Guatama Buddha observed after profund meditation:
    "This momks, is the noble truth of suffering: Birth is sorrowwful, old age is sorrowful, ilnness is sorrowful, death is sorrowful; grief, distress, and dispair are sorrowful; to be united with what is unwanted is sorrowful; to be seperated from what is wanted is sorrowful; not to obtain what is desired is sorrowful; in short, the five "groups" are sorrowful". (Mahavagga 1.6.19)

    The five groups (skandha) are the body, sensations, perceptions, thoughts, and consciousness.
    These are inherently impermanent and therefore not conducive to true happiness or bliss.
    Bliss belongs to the unconditional Reality beyond body, mind and the world of finite objects. It is bliss that has always been the aspiration of the great seekers and that those who have transcended the ego-personality realize as their innermost nature.
    All are children of Bliss (The seeker of bliss) has emerged from bliss and he wants to return to bliss.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    The tittle presents the question, _______, the quoted presents more questions, which have been answered based on an if. If jesus gave us freel will ... he did, did he? then God must not exist? An if that presents a rule based on what? I would just ask the originator.

    What if the sky is really red, and not blue?

    If god is omnipotent, and knowing ... how can we not have free-will? I can conduct experiments with my dog to get at this.
    Wanting to be like Gods ourselves we stopped listening for the word of God and began dictating.
    We, as consciousness, borrowed the Creative Power from God[ Awareness], the will of God and look at the mess some have made of its misuse. That's why in the Bible's story Satan [another name for consciousness was cast out of heaven, A Tranquil mind]
    There are such unfortunates but, truth be known, it's their selfish little ego's to blame. "Where ego I go", rings in the distance.

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Can your dog bend your will,[cause you to 'rationalize', putting words in His mouth],
    To have His way/will with you?
    Yes, such as "arf" while standing by the door, I understand him to be saying, "Hey, I need to take a leak. Maybe even make a poo." Then I submit to his desrie to do this, because he needs to, not me.


    If you have never questioned if you are walking your dog, or your dog is walking you, and de-sided (not one or the other)that it is both, then I think you have never had a companion ship with a dog.

    There are also times when I say "........" to my dog, and I know he doesn't really understanding what I am saying. So the best way it appears to get some form of understanding across is by e-motion.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    All are children of Bliss (The seeker of bliss) has emerged from bliss and he wants to return to bliss.”
    "Ignorance is bliss..."
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    I, nor my ego have spoken about bliss, or ultimate absolutes of anything, nor ignorance.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    The ego speaks of nothing but__it's own opinions...
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
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    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    The ego speaks of nothing but__it's own opinions...
    And what opinions have been expressed here?


    I do not find myself to be without doubt.
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    All we know of the true Lao-tzu__is his 81 aphorisms...
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
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    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    This seemed serendipitous to me. The animation is great.

    Who walks the straight and narrow?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/20...-walk-straight
    "I act like you act, I do what you do, but I don’t know, what it’s like to be you. What consciousness is, I ain’t got a clue. I got the Zombie Blues!"

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    Re: Does God really exist in any form?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meem View Post
    This seemed serendipitous to me. The animation is great.

    Who walks the straight and narrow?
    The righteous man does not rationalize away his duties nor his code of conduct[actions]. [Life based on the principles of the altruistuic virtues/Truths] TRUE "SELF".

 

 
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