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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    With 2012 edging ever closer what will befall mankind on this day? I feel that there will be no end of the world scenerio,but rather an opportunity for man the arise pick up his bed and walk,this will come about gradually as a recognision of the major illness that plagues humanity that of selfishness,and self centeredness. The utter domination of the ego and its vice like grip on all human endevours.2012 will open up a doorway that many will begin to enter and see the wood through the trees,begin to wake up from the hypnotic slumber and see the lies peddled out on the tv screens,the surface trivia dished up as "news" and begin to realise that we are all interconnected and are as one,wholeness will gradually replace fragmented egotism.

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    The apocalypse (a prophetic 'revelation', especially concerning a cataclysm in which the forces of good permanently triumph over the forces of evil.) spoken of in connection with Jesus and the christian prophecies seems to be timing out with the end of the Mayan calendar.

    If you look at the message of christian teaching it starts with a war in heaven and a renegade band of fallen angles being banished to earth to reign supreme over the evolving beings there for a period of time. Maybe, as part of the peace accord, a time was set to be the end of this reign of confusion. Why not a cosmic event that happens only once every 26,000 years or so (Dec. 21 2012) to be the end of confusion and the beginning of a new awakening?

    This 'apocalypse' is also timing out with the worlds 'peak oil' situation. Our fossil fuel based economy is in decline which will exert a lot more pressure on the worlds social and political systems in the near future.

    A scientific breakthrough is desperately needed on the energy front soon! Maybe it will be a "Hundredth monkey effect". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect.

    One thing I know for sure is that evolution guarantees that if you cannot adapt to changes in your environment you will become extinct.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    It would seem that mankind has been wiped out many times,only to start again and hopefully learn from his mistakes,the last time it was the great flood,this time who knows? Whatever form it takes no doubt there will be some who survive in physical form to hopefully start again.


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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    I apoligise mate,I seem to have overlooked that very obvious point! The date is 21.12,12,is that better for you?

    regards michael.
    Do you mean the 21st or the 12th ....... have you got a typo in there again ?

    I will take it as the 12th ...... Now that I recall I am off shift roster on that day, and in the morning I will be making a cup of coffee and reading a short story called 'The Popul Vuh' ...... lolol

    No doubt the rest of mankind will be doing the same ?

    The Popul Vuh.

    This is the first account, the first narrative. There was neither man, nor animal, birds, fishes, crabs, trees, stones, caves, ravines, grasses, nor forests;
    there was only the sky.

    The surface of the earth had not appeared.

    There was only the calm sea and the great expanse of the sky. There was nothing brought together, nothing which could make a noise, nor anything which might move, or tremble, or could make noise in the sky.

    There was nothing standing; only the calm water, the placid sea, alone and tranquil. Nothing existed. There was only immobility and silence in the darkness, in the night


    cool bananas ... greg
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    ... graffiti on Tavern wall, Pompeii, circa AD 70.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Do you mean the 21st or the 12th ....... have you got a typo in there again ?

    I will take it as the 12th ...... Now that I recall I am off shift roster on that day, and in the morning I will be making a cup of coffee and reading a short story called 'The Popul Vuh' ...... lolol

    No doubt the rest of mankind will be doing the same ?

    The Popul Vuh.

    This is the first account, the first narrative. There was neither man, nor animal, birds, fishes, crabs, trees, stones, caves, ravines, grasses, nor forests;
    there was only the sky.

    The surface of the earth had not appeared.

    There was only the calm sea and the great expanse of the sky. There was nothing brought together, nothing which could make a noise, nor anything which might move, or tremble, or could make noise in the sky.

    There was nothing standing; only the calm water, the placid sea, alone and tranquil. Nothing existed. There was only immobility and silence in the darkness, in the night


    cool bananas ... greg
    Greg ole buddy,I did mean the 21.12.12, but that said enjoy your day,as time grows short!

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Greg ole buddy,I did mean the 21.12.12, but that said enjoy your day,as time grows short!

    regards michael.
    Ohhh ..... .. well, in that case, the 21st, we'll all be dead won't we ??

    cool bananas ... greg
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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    This truth will be repeated it has been said that we will experience peace for 1000 years but after that we are going to face an extinction level event ...I haven't had much time to debate 2012 but it seems to be a good thing for us to study after it happens rather than predict "astrological predictions" I'd like the next person who mentions 2012 to have some legitimate reason for it other than "hearsay".

    ~theunify

    P.S. if it is the end what point shall I make of studying it?
    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    It would seem that mankind has been wiped out many times,only to start again and hopefully learn from his mistakes,the last time it was the great flood,this time who knows? Whatever form it takes no doubt there will be some who survive in physical form to hopefully start again.


    regards michael.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Ohhh ..... .. well, in that case, the 21st, we'll all be dead won't we ??

    cool bananas ... greg
    No mate,we will not be dead,rather we will have an opportunity as a doorway to the next level of understanding as a great age has passed open up.you pays yer money and yer takes yer choice!

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by theunify View Post
    This truth will be repeated it has been said that we will experience peace for 1000 years but after that we are going to face an extinction level event ...I haven't had much time to debate 2012 but it seems to be a good thing for us to study after it happens rather than predict "astrological predictions" I'd like the next person who mentions 2012 to have some legitimate reason for it other than "hearsay".

    ~theunify

    P.S. if it is the end what point shall I make of studying it?
    It will not be the end theunify,rather the opposite I feel,we will have a gradual dawning of an higher awareness as we enter a new age.

    regards michael.
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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Maybe it will be the end of the beginning.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by jag View Post
    Maybe it will be the end of the beginning.

    jag
    You may well be right there jag,who knows?

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