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    Smile from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Behind the seen lies the unseen, the noumenal reality. This unseen consciousness unmanifested seems to be the absolute real thing. What we see and are aware of is it's effect, an illusion, albeit a seemingly real, to us.

    The universe originated in mind, focussed will, and awesome intent. The
    unmanifested became visible. A breathing out of thought and in due course will return once again to the noumenal, and this universe will cease to be.

    Until of course the next breath.

    The fire which is life, and the origin of all of us, lies in front of our noses.
    Let's us all take a deep breath.

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    mkirkpatrick,

    For me, a being is internal to it's manifestation but external to it's possiblity to exist. So the fact that the next second I could appear in China, or as an elephant, upside down, is external to me. But what is internal to what I am is for example how you see me, how my parents see me, how a dog perceives me... etz. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    mkirkpatrick,

    For me, a being is internal to it's manifestation but external to it's possiblity to exist. So the fact that the next second I could appear in China, or as an elephant, upside down, is external to me. But what is internal to what I am is for example how you see me, how my parents see me, how a dog perceives me... etz. What do you think?
    I think amigo that we only ever see the a surface reflection of the inner being,your
    dog no doubt sees a food dispenser,and a walking companion!

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    Smile Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    To reflect,to look again,when we do this,and find the abilty to look beyond the shadow,
    then we "see" the origin of the original idea?Faint at first,but growing brighter with sharpened focus.



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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Reflection is an interesting phenomena,I see a world populated by many reflections of me,each displaying a myriad of possible behaviors,each one thinking that they are perhaps different and unique,but are they,or rather more so is there really a THEY at all?I think not,there is only ONE LIFE,not two or three but ONE,this is of course in absolute terms and not in realtive terms where there is the appearance of millions,but at infinite depth these all vanish into just LIFE.


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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    The many become the few,then the few become the one,then the one becomes the none,is that how it goes? We awaken as the many and our involved with this for a while,then after many lifetimes we become the few,we wake up so to speak,we hear the call,"many are called but few are chosen"we see the light within,our inner lantern is lite we become the one the pressure builds and we begin to crack,Am I really all that within a mortal frame? We falls to our knees and ask this cup to be taken from us,from whom do you ask inquires an inner voice?What is it that you know pilgrim the voice says(with mounting internal pressure)The answer falls from the lips of the one-I know nothing it says,exactly says the inner voice,and the pressure is at once released,the one then becomes the none,and all is well.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Behind the seen lies the unseen, the noumenal reality. This unseen consciousness unmanifested seems to be the absolute real thing. What we see and are aware of is it's effect, an illusion, albeit a seemingly real, to us.

    The universe originated in mind, focussed will, and awesome intent. The
    unmanifested became visible. A breathing out of thought and in due course will return once again to the noumenal, and this universe will cease to be.

    Until of course the next breath.

    The fire which is life, and the origin of all of us, lies in front of our noses.
    Let's us all take a deep breath.

    regards michael.
    Hi michael,

    Amen brother....take a deep breath and turn our heads away from the shadows so the fire can find our eyes, it takes no small amount of courage.

    It seems that all religion down through history and continuing today seems to be nothing more than an opiate to the people. Many of the great truths taught by Jesus were almost lost in early compromises by this religion of paganized Christianity.

    But this is not the religion of Jesus. "Up to Pentecost, religion had revealed only man seeking God; since Pentecost, man is still searching for God, but there shines out over the world the spectacle of God also seeking for man and sending his spirit to dwell within him when he has found him."

    We have but to turn our heads and accept the fire..."Faint at first, but growing brighter with sharpened focus."

    jag

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    With 2012 edging ever closer what will befall mankind on this day? I feel that there will be no end of the world scenerio,but rather an opportunity for man the arise pick up his bed and walk,this will come about gradually as a recognision of the major illness that plagues humanity that of selfishness,and self centeredness. The utter domination of the ego and its vice like grip on all human endevours.2012 will open up a doorway that many will begin to enter and see the wood through the trees,begin to wake up from the hypnotic slumber and see the lies peddled out on the tv screens,the surface trivia dished up as "news" and begin to realise that we are all interconnected and are as one,wholeness will gradually replace fragmented egotism.

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    With 2012 edging ever closer what will befall mankind on this day?
    2012 is a year ... not a day ?

    If you want me to predict the future (as you ask ... lol) then you also need me give me a month and a day ?

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    Re: from noumenal,to phenomenal ,reflections.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    2012 is a year ... not a day ?

    If you want me to predict the future (as you ask ... lol) then you also need me give me a month and a day ?

    cool bananas .... greggy
    I apoligise mate,I seem to have overlooked that very obvious point! The date is 21.12,12,is that better for you?

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