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    LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    The LHC, or large hadron collider, is the latest, most powerful particle accelerator, that aims to recreate conditions in the very very early universe (that is, when the universe was around a billionth of a second old). It is based at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland, but is an international project, supported by countries from around the world.

    Scientists think that the universe began with a "big bang" and that ever since, the universe has been cooling down. Very early in the cooling process, the matter and forces that govern the universe at this day were created.

    The LHC will produce extremely high energy by colliding atomic particles, or hadrons[4] that are travelling at very high speed. The higher the energy, the further back in the history of the universe we can observe. It is said that the LHC will produce energies roughly seven times larger than any other particle accelerator has ever managed.

    It's hard to predict what will happen when the LHC is switched on, since it is testing areas and theories of physics that have never been able to be tested before. However, that is what makes it so interesting: it may find something completely new that we weren't expecting!

    One of the most interesting theories the LHC will test was put forward by the UK physicist Professor Peter Higgs and others. Particles of light (known as photons) have no mass. Matter particles (such as electrons and quarks) do – and we’re not sure why. Higgs proposed the existence of a field (the Higg’s Field), which pervades the entire Universe and interacts with some particles and this gives them mass. If the theory is right then the field should reveal itself as a particle (the Higg’s particle). The Higg’s particle is too heavy to be made in existing accelerators, but the high energies of the LHC should enable us to produce and detect it.

    There are various big questions that the LHC is expected, or hoped, to provide an answer to. These include
    • How did our universe come to be the way it is?
    • What kind of universe do we live in?
    • What happened in the big bang?
    • Where is the antimatter?
    • Why do particles have mass?
    • What is out universe made of?
    There is a discussion of these questions in [1].

    The LHC is due to become operational some time next year. So.. we wait with anticipation!


    References
    [1]LHC UK; big questions
    [2]LHC UK
    [3]LHC Homepage
    [4]Hadrons, baryons and mesons

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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    So, here is a brief overview of the LHC. If anyone has any further info then feel free to post it. Also, I invite any general comments and questions.

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    For me, I have always looked forward to experiments like the LHC, like a child waiting for Christmas. I personally believe in the potential of the 'Higgs particle'. It sure would add to particle science, if found. I personally believe that quarks are made up of smaller particles, and it would be nice to add to the extended family of Physics.
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    I understand why, as I feel the same, especially for this collider. Even if the LHC doesn't find the Higgs, then I'm pretty sure it'll find something new. It's possible that a completely new, unpredicted particle will show up. So, I think either way, the outcome of the LHC is going to greatly affect science of the next few decades.
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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    Quote Originally Posted by neutralino View Post
    So, here is a brief overview of the LHC. If anyone has any further info then feel free to post it. Also, I invite any general comments and questions.
    Hi

    I think the proton exhibits no mass in transient fluid form but then is absolute rest ... it has mass

    The CERN release a while back seen was very indicative of personal agenda not disclosed then after quite a campaine by self to this they did finally say it that yes what they are going for is a black hole creation ... or what they misinterpret or ponder is a BH or have opinion on ... the one thing i noticed is the closeness of particle stream ... that is not right somehow to my own ponders of interaction now supported in the northern lights discovery's supported of my ponders ... I personally feel this should be a project put on the back burner by its scope of potential ... EOW ~Graham IMHO

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    Mad scientists are out to destroy the world, Graham. That black hole will fall right through the earth and then back, slicing it to pieces, then grow and gobble us up. I'll e-mail the Ninja Grandmasters.

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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    Mad scientists are out to destroy the world, Graham. That black hole will fall right through the earth and then back, slicing it to pieces, then grow and gobble us up. I'll e-mail the Ninja Grandmasters.
    LOL seriously I wrote this up on a few sites reporting CERN in a pro way and then a bout a month later they said they were in fact trying for a BH which was being denied as some in the box people were saying by some perspectives it happens all the time no big deal .. its the new H BOMB all over again ... The particle streams are running parallel to each other in opposite direction in close local ... it makes for perpendicular effect in a Renaissance spin vortex not where they will smash but the whole seven mile circle as if i remember it is? They say they the particles have no mass but wave does not effect wave they attach effect of MF to particle form ...

    And then there is the mind set follow the leader .... bull durum dollar value spent has to continue garbage for your pipe of ponder ... they said that same way in every death camp built and for ever experiment hurting man ... and every war. ... it stinks

    Take a closer look, profiling is to get in tune with the other, you watch his walk, his talk, his slight ankle twisted walk, where his head will turn, the fear of his wife catching him in what he did to the child the night before, will he pause and look back? will he nod in agreement when he is talking? Will he look to the stars and hold his head skyward? Is he looking for something on the ground he will pick up? Is he going to start bouncing in his step proud in his ego to what he did or will do later? Is that dog going to scare him running over to him behind his heals that he does not see yet? ... hear the videos and see the white coat pens in his plastic geek pocket saver and white (good Guy) safety hat of authority, east Indian Guru of science look when it was not needed authority figure saying "Please continue,I know what I am doing" ... I was not wrong of the true purpose of a BH expose as the hidden agenda that came out later and I am not wrong in the ethical reserve needed.

    Will the US Court stop it? No I do not think so even with hidden agendas coming out later and of history then / now they were all misleading .. get it? They are liars, they proved it right there. Can anyone really make a decision of such magnitude of judgment here in this thread if the information is unethical? You can not do it. It calls for and demand censor ... think of it.
    Kind Regards Graham.

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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    Mad scientists just might jeopardize the Universe and existence. These huge scientific undertakings of examination and study should be examined for any sign of unethical intentions and we should wonder why studies of this nature are never brought before the masses for discussion and concensus. You only have to look where its coming from to know why everybody does not have a voice in these matters until it is too late. This is just my opinion.


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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    You can’t be serious Mikal. Do your homework and lose your fear.
    It's a multi-national project.
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    Re: LHC (Large Hadron Collider)

    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    You can’t be serious Mikal. Do your homework and lose your fear.
    It's a multi-national project.
    I know David ... they are intelligent people from all over the world ... there are reasons for the non disclosure of a BH at first. Science should not be like that on such a scale ... some one came to there senses and gave disclosure to Pooh Pooh the fear with some things Ive heard oh it happens every day ... it is not on a scale to worry ...

    It is not the science so much that worries me there but the incomplete disclosure of agenda's ... science should be above that and in so saying it so should scientists no matter the money perks or pets on the back ... and yelling this till i am blue in the face makes little difference ... but hope even the little will help ... sorry for the attitude my friend.

    When i post like that Mikal i am flaming, ignore trying to figure it out cause it is not directed at the likes of you or most here i have read ...

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