[Aiya-Oba]

Time is Space insideout. -Aiya-Oba (Poet/Philosopher).

[Guille]

Or, space is time outside in. We cannot know which of the two to take as reference as they are both relative since Einstein.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by Aiya-Oba Time is Space insideout. -Aiya-Oba (Poet/Philosopher).

About time and space; I think Richard Feynman's comment that: "It is very confusing why what normal people take for granted, scientist find to be complex".

[Aiya-Oba]

GUILLE:
You are correct.Because Time is Space, it can be expressed "insideout" or "outsidein," depending on the reference point.But regardless at what reference point,there is no space without time, nor is there time without space,anymore than there can exist an electron without a positron.
Space is only possible as anti-Space (Time) and anti-Time (Space). Every unit of the material world is a construct of this template of Space-Time, and Cosmos itself has a Universe of Time for every Universe of Space.-Aiya-Oba.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Aiya-Oba GUILLE: You are correct.Because Time is Space, it can be expressed "insideout" or "outsidein," depending on the reference point.But regardless at what reference point,there is no space without time, nor is there time without space,anymore than there can exist an electron without a positron. Space is only possible as anti-Space (Time) and anti-Time (Space). Every unit of the material world is a construct of this template of Space-Time, and Cosmos itself has a Universe of Time for every Universe of Space.-Aiya-Oba.

I agree. In fact, one of the main changes in philosophy has been that we've stoped talking about the things in themselves and started to talk them in relation to each other. The problem with the first is that we fall into the ideology road, which expects always a thought which is final, total, perfect, and those are always both false and wrong (the terms don't mean to the theoretical world the same, even though in practice we use them as synonyms). The problem with the second is that it takes us to talking about nothing, it takes us to fatal theories, to negation and limitation, to pessimism, pasivism and nihilism. Before, philosophers talked about space and about time, now we talk about space-time, the space of time and the time of space. How to escape that dialectical world of thought? Who answers that question will be the Nietzsche of the 21st century.

[Aiya-Oba]

thanks GUILLE, for your thoughtful observations.
Existence is coexistence. The nature of anything is in the contex of its being.
Relation (not isolation) is what grants all things reason for existence.
To picture Space "in itself", without the contex for its existence, is as limiting as the understanding of matter without energy.Space-Time is cosmic pair.
-Aiya-Oba

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Guille, I think the dialectical world of thought needs to be centered toward a new ground of being___or really the first really true ground___period! I was searching around for analogy ideas when I stumbled across David Chalmers, dealing with much in this area. He's questioning the relationships of consciousness to materialism___he's a Ph.D. philosopher from Australia and one of Hofstadter's students, of years past. You may want to check him out, as he offers some of the best comparative philosophy I've recently come across. Link: http://consc.net/papers/moving.html

regards

Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>> I agree. In fact, one of the main changes in philosophy has been that we've stoped talking about the things in themselves and started to talk them in relation to each other. The problem with the first is that we fall into the ideology road, which expects always a thought which is final, total, perfect, and those are always both false and wrong (the terms don't mean to the theoretical world the same, even though in practice we use them as synonyms). The problem with the second is that it takes us to talking about nothing, it takes us to fatal theories, to negation and limitation, to pessimism, pasivism and nihilism. Before, philosophers talked about space and about time, now we talk about space-time, the space of time and the time of space. How to escape that dialectical world of thought? Who answers that question will be the Nietzsche of the 21st century.

[Aiya-Oba]

Everything is good in its rightful place,but only those that refuse to open their eyes, can see the relevance of candle-light, in broad-day-light.
Everything is of nuclear origin.
The central principle of reconciliation of irreconcilables(Nuclear Logic) is the Self-creator and Equator of All in all.

Space-Time, is I N D I V I D U A L (indivisible two) and equator.

Thus, S/T x T/S = 1.

Where S, is Space, and T, is Time, and can be any natural numbers.

Say, S = 4, and T = 3.

Space-Time = 4/3 x 3/4 = 1. Q E D.

Time is Space insideout. -Aiya-Oba

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Guille, I think the dialectical world of thought needs to be centered toward a new ground of being___or really the first really true ground___period! I was searching around for analogy ideas when I stumbled across David Chalmers, dealing with much in this area. He's questioning the relationships of consciousness to materialism___he's a Ph.D. philosopher from Australia and one of Hofstadter's students, of years past. You may want to check him out, as he offers some of the best comparative philosophy I've recently come across. Link: http://consc.net/papers/moving.html regards

He is a really very interesting thinker. Thanks for the link Lloyd, it's great. I think though that we should add elements to our idea of analogic thought. We have background in the philosophy of mind, and all philosophy of mind leads to the philosophy of science. So, one of the main areas I think about now is to develop a philosophy of science from Anun theory. But I'm quite lsot. I've just started to read a book about the philosophy of science in all it's perspectives and all the propositions. It is profound and very interesting. Also, one of the things I've started to think is investigating the ideas from postmodernism and the ideas from modernism which are appropiate for Anun. We have said enough what we don't like, now we must accept the reality of our situation and 'Think, create thinking, and sense thinking' (sense as in both making sense and sensation giving, instead of the crude Hegelianism etz).

[Aiya-Oba]

Thanks GUILLE.
Greatness sees beyond the apparent.For a young mind that is great indeed.
Stay glorious,
-Aiya-Oba.