[LeoK]

"Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?"
LeoK

But why are we still in the uttermost dark tunnel passage?
Why are we not out in the bright sunshine or at least out of the
tunnel?

What is holding the mankind back?
LeoK

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by LeoK "Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?" LeoK But why are we still in the uttermost dark tunnel passage? Why are we not out in the bright sunshine or at least out of the tunnel? What is holding the mankind back? LeoK

What is holding mankind back is ignorance of who,what,and where,he really is,until
man goes within himself,to discover his relationship and affinity with all of creation,
until he sees,and furthermore makes these connections,takes a giant leap in trust
and faith,he will forever remain in the dark tunnel.The wayout is in the very ancient
words of;Man know thyself!

regards michael.

[LeoK]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick What is holding mankind back is ignorance of who,what,and where,he really is,until man goes within himself,to discover his relationship and affinity with all of creation, until he sees,and furthermore makes these connections,takes a giant leap in trust and faith,he will forever remain in the dark tunnel.The wayout is in the very ancient words of;Man know thyself! regards michael.

Here I'll disagree with you, though the ancient words are fair.

"Man know thyself!" So, what? Does this bridge/path block the Science
of humankind?

Well, this is B*******T, it is..!!!
Knock, knock, anyone there..!!!??? Hey, wake UP..!!!

I do ask again:
Why does the human science know so little about Time & Space?

The awakening is interrupted by XXX..!!!
LeoK

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by LeoK Here I'll disagree with you, though the ancient words are fair. "Man know thyself!" So, what? Does this bridge/path block the Science of humankind? Well, this is B*******T, it is..!!! Knock, knock, anyone there..!!!??? Hey, wake UP..!!! I do ask again: Why does the human science know so little about Time & Space? The awakening is interrupted by XXX..!!! LeoK

Science thinks it knows about time and space,what it actually totally unaware of is that
it is all an illusion,there pride keeps them from seeing the reality in front of their eyes.

regards michael.

[LeoK]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Science thinks it knows about time and space,what it actually totally unaware of is that it is all an illusion,there pride keeps them from seeing the reality in front of their eyes. regards michael.

Well, illusions or reality...

The "concepts" of Time or Space are illusions, of course. I think almost all
will agree on this.

But how are these "illusions" transferred to the reality of time or space?
Well, yes, one needs to know the "illusion" to handle the reality of t & s.
The concept of mathematics is included into these kinds of transcripts as
one expect true physicists to be able to do so.

You seems to be more a philosopher than a physicist, a matter of
disciplines, no one excludes the other.

But to reach the top of the Mountain one perhaps needs to be a "Mountaineer"?

Einstein formulated E=mc^2.
LeoK

[LeoK]

Hi

I know that the GPS satellites' clocks are all adjusted for speeding compared
to the earth time.

But didn't Einstein's formulas predict the opposite of the GPS clocks - adjusts
for slowing in orbit. (The twin paradox.)

OK Einstein was right in the sense of the need of adjust, but wrong in the
direction of adjust.

Anyone to confirm or explain why Einstein was wrong about the direction
of adjustment?

Still Einstein formulated E=mc^2.
LeoK

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by LeoK Well, illusions or reality... The "concepts" of Time or Space are illusions, of course. I think almost all will agree on this. But how are these "illusions" transferred to the reality of time or space? Well, yes, one needs to know the "illusion" to handle the reality of t & s. The concept of mathematics is included into these kinds of transcripts as one expect true physicists to be able to do so. You seems to be more a philosopher than a physicist, a matter of disciplines, no one excludes the other. But to reach the top of the Mountain one perhaps needs to be a "Mountaineer"? Einstein formulated E=mc^2. LeoK

You are quite correct there Leok,I have my crampons and boots on order as we speak!
regards michael.

[LeoK]

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The changing rate of clocks caused by changes in both velocity and gravity are well documented and have been determined to a high degree of accuracy. Measuring the rates of orbiting atomic clocks is a highly developed science necessitated by the need to maintain the accuracy of the constellation of Global Positioning Satellites (GPS). The clocks in many different satellites must be designed to run as synchronously as possible with clocks on earth. This is difficult because a clock’s rate is influenced by both the kinetic time dilation of its orbital velocity and the gravitational escape velocity at the orbit’s distance from the earth’s center. The clocks in the lowest orbits run the slowest because both their orbital velocities and escape velocities are greater than those of the higher orbits. Clocks speed up as they are placed in higher and higher orbits because they must be decelerated to both lower orbital velocities and lower escape velocities.

In order to synchronize the clocks in the GPS constellation, technicians must first synchronize the cesium clock to be put in orbit with a cesium clock on Earth. They must then calculate the rate at which the clock will run when it is placed in its desired orbit and then calibrate it to run faster or slower than the earth clock so that it will run at the same rate when in orbit. The reason the clock’s rate changes is because the rate at which cesium atoms vibrate decreases when they are accelerated to higher velocities and increases when they are decelerated to lower velocities. The clock’s recording mechanism must be calibrated to make up for the changed vibration rate of its cesium atoms when in orbit. The ideal orbit for GPS clocks is 2.694 Earth radii. At this orbit the sum of its orbital and escape velocities is the same as the sum of these velocities at the earth’s surface. Clocks placed in this orbit would be synchronous with clocks on the earth’s surface without the need of any special calibration. Higher orbiting clocks would run faster and clocks in lower orbits would run slower.

http://www.circlon-theory.com/HTML/FallingClocks.html

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LeoK

[LeoK]

So, concerning, Atomic clocks do speed down when applying velocity
in opposite to Einstein's Twin paradox fore-saying the Twin exposed for
velocity becomes the youngest of them.

Velocity makes the Atomic clock to speed down.
Both orbital and gravitational speed.

Well, oh, sorry, then Einstein IS right also here, hmm...
The twin exposed for velocity is the youngest. Precisely what
Einstein did foretell. Couldn't crack him on this either.

So, the Atomic clock placed on the moon for a year is faster.
The hour glass is, of course, slower.
And the radioactive decay clock is in pace.

Three different time directions on the moon?
Well, of course not. These clocks only shows the mechanisms' of time.
And these exposures of Time are obviously enigmatically non uniform.

The one cracking Einstein will be the new.
LeoK

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Science thinks it knows about time and space,what it actually totally unaware of is that it is all an illusion,there pride keeps them from seeing the reality in front of their eyes. regards michael.

And you know more than science? What a joke...hee...hee...hee...

Anyone can exaggerate the facts, like you two are...

regards,