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01-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Hi, all folks
A good mind example for time follows:
You got three sets of clocks, two hour glasses, two atomic clocks and
two radioactive decay clocks.
Place one of each set on the moon for a year. Then take these back
to earth.
One can then study the following situations:
The hour glass once placed on the moon is slower.
The atomic clock from the moon is faster.
And the radioactive decay clock is in pace.
What is time?
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01-09-2007, 05:24 PM
Hi LeoK;
This may be a good example of the fallacies of our clocks as measuring devices of time but, I don’t think it has anything to do with the pure concept of time. What is the point you are trying to make here? David | |
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01-09-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dleviwing This may be a good example of the fallacies of our clocks as measuring devices of time but, I don’t think it has anything to do with the pure concept of time. What is the point you are trying to make here? | Hi, David
My point is the basic understanding of Time. And this example by me is
meant to give the opportunity to some kind of mind-chart that perhaps
will make time, both as an concept and as an physical unit, understood.
My point is the pure scientifically and physical issue making.
A good issue is sometimes the half answer.
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01-09-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LeoK Hi, David
My point is the basic understanding of Time. And this example by me is
meant to give the opportunity to some kind of mind-chart that perhaps
will make time, both as an concept and as an physical unit, understood.
My point is the pure scientifically and physical issue making.
A good issue is sometimes the half answer.
LeoK | LeoK.please could you explain further what you mean by a mind-chart?
I am interested in where you are going with this idea!
regards michael. Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
reveal herself? | |
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01-09-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick LeoK.please could you explain further what you mean by a mind-chart?
I am interested in where you are going with this idea!
regards michael. | Hi, all
Yes, michael, you caught the possibility of the "spiritual" strength in the
main example.
You see, this example was, with a minor adjustment, established about
15 years ago in my thoughts. And this example has been a very good
chart or map for the mind in the understanding of basic physics. Such as
concerning concepts of time and space and the translation of these into
the physical world.
One can say that this example is both a poetic and scientific light
in the dark tunnel of theoryofeverything.
Science is life.
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01-09-2007, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LeoK Hi, all
Yes, michael, you caught the possibility of the "spiritual" strength in the
main example.
You see, this example was, with a minor adjustment, established about
15 years ago in my thoughts. And this example has been a very good
chart or map for the mind in the understanding of basic physics. Such as
concerning concepts of time and space and the translation of these into
the physical world.
One can say that this example is both a poetic and scientific light
in the dark tunnel of theoryofeverything.
Science is life.
LeoK | I am beginning to picture an idea formed that needs releasing,am I right?
are we going to emerge from the tunnel and post some more?
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01-10-2007, 01:47 PM
Hi, michael
Your signature is:
"Humilty, coupled with boldness, surprises truth to
reveal herself?"
If I say that I myself have said exactly the same to myself.
Don't say that you are a Gemini too?
As you can note, I am avoiding your issue about the following
15 years of contemplating from the example. The issue
continues about theoryofeverything.
Hope is the last thing that escapes.
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01-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LeoK Hi, michael
Your signature is:
"Humilty, coupled with boldness, surprises truth to
reveal herself?"
If I say that I myself have said exactly the same to myself.
Don't say that you are a Gemini too?
As you can note, I am avoiding your issue about the following
15 years of contemplating from the example. The issue
continues about theoryofeverything.
Hope is the last thing that escapes.
LeoK | Thanks LeoK,no I am actually a Capricorn,born on Boxing day long,long,ago?
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01-10-2007, 06:50 PM
Hi
So, we can measure time, by the main Clock example.
But we got three different clock readings..!!!
But can we so, measure space?
This is, if one take some different "space"-theories, also unceasingly
non uniform as the here initial clock/time example.
What I'm referring as "space" theories are the SR and the String Theory, ST.
(Minkowski's naturally four-dimensional space-time. And the latest ST theory's
11th dimensional space.)
So Minkowski's space is three space dimensional, and the ST is 11th
space dimensional..!!!
Also concerning the space we have different answers..!!!
Do we (the Science) know anything about time or space?
Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?
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01-10-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LeoK Hi
So, we can measure time, by the main Clock example.
But we got three different clock readings..!!!
But can we so, measure space?
This is, if one take some different "space"-theories, also unceasingly
non uniform as the here initial clock/time example.
What I'm referring as "space" theories are the SR and the String Theory, ST.
(Minkowski's naturally four-dimensional space-time. And the latest ST theory's
11th dimensional space.)
So Minkowski's space is three space dimensional, and the ST is 11th
space dimensional..!!!
Also concerning the space we have different answers..!!!
Do we (the Science) know anything about time or space?
Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?
LeoK | We are indeed LeoK,myself while I will agree that there is an "appearance "of time and
space within the relative universe,I hold that they are really illusions,cast by the luminosity of the infinite glow,in which the relative universe is bathed in!
regards michael. Humilty,coupled with boldness,surprises truth to
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