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    Three sets of Clocks

    Hi, all folks

    A good mind example for time follows:

    You got three sets of clocks, two hour glasses, two atomic clocks and
    two radioactive decay clocks.

    Place one of each set on the moon for a year. Then take these back
    to earth.

    One can then study the following situations:
    The hour glass once placed on the moon is slower.
    The atomic clock from the moon is faster.
    And the radioactive decay clock is in pace.

    What is time?
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    Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Hi LeoK;
    This may be a good example of the fallacies of our clocks as measuring devices of time but, I don’t think it has anything to do with the pure concept of time. What is the point you are trying to make here?
    David

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    Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    This may be a good example of the fallacies of our clocks as measuring devices of time but, I don’t think it has anything to do with the pure concept of time. What is the point you are trying to make here?
    Hi, David

    My point is the basic understanding of Time. And this example by me is
    meant to give the opportunity to some kind of mind-chart that perhaps
    will make time, both as an concept and as an physical unit, understood.

    My point is the pure scientifically and physical issue making.

    A good issue is sometimes the half answer.
    LeoK

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoK View Post
    Hi, David

    My point is the basic understanding of Time. And this example by me is
    meant to give the opportunity to some kind of mind-chart that perhaps
    will make time, both as an concept and as an physical unit, understood.

    My point is the pure scientifically and physical issue making.

    A good issue is sometimes the half answer.
    LeoK
    LeoK.please could you explain further what you mean by a mind-chart?
    I am interested in where you are going with this idea!


    regards michael.
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    reveal herself?

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    Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    LeoK.please could you explain further what you mean by a mind-chart?
    I am interested in where you are going with this idea!
    regards michael.
    Hi, all

    Yes, michael, you caught the possibility of the "spiritual" strength in the
    main example.

    You see, this example was, with a minor adjustment, established about
    15 years ago in my thoughts. And this example has been a very good
    chart or map for the mind in the understanding of basic physics. Such as
    concerning concepts of time and space and the translation of these into
    the physical world.

    One can say that this example is both a poetic and scientific light
    in the dark tunnel of theoryofeverything.

    Science is life.
    LeoK

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoK View Post
    Hi, all

    Yes, michael, you caught the possibility of the "spiritual" strength in the
    main example.

    You see, this example was, with a minor adjustment, established about
    15 years ago in my thoughts. And this example has been a very good
    chart or map for the mind in the understanding of basic physics. Such as
    concerning concepts of time and space and the translation of these into
    the physical world.

    One can say that this example is both a poetic and scientific light
    in the dark tunnel of theoryofeverything.

    Science is life.
    LeoK
    I am beginning to picture an idea formed that needs releasing,am I right?
    are we going to emerge from the tunnel and post some more?

    regards michael.
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    reveal herself?

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    Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Hi, michael

    Your signature is:

    "Humilty, coupled with boldness, surprises truth to
    reveal herself?"

    If I say that I myself have said exactly the same to myself.
    Don't say that you are a Gemini too?

    As you can note, I am avoiding your issue about the following
    15 years of contemplating from the example. The issue
    continues about theoryofeverything.

    Hope is the last thing that escapes.
    LeoK

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    Smile Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoK View Post
    Hi, michael

    Your signature is:

    "Humilty, coupled with boldness, surprises truth to
    reveal herself?"

    If I say that I myself have said exactly the same to myself.
    Don't say that you are a Gemini too?

    As you can note, I am avoiding your issue about the following
    15 years of contemplating from the example. The issue
    continues about theoryofeverything.

    Hope is the last thing that escapes.
    LeoK
    Thanks LeoK,no I am actually a Capricorn,born on Boxing day long,long,ago?

    regards michael.
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    Re: Three sets of Clocks

    Hi

    So, we can measure time, by the main Clock example.
    But we got three different clock readings..!!!

    But can we so, measure space?

    This is, if one take some different "space"-theories, also unceasingly
    non uniform as the here initial clock/time example.

    What I'm referring as "space" theories are the SR and the String Theory, ST.
    (Minkowski's naturally four-dimensional space-time. And the latest ST theory's
    11th dimensional space.)

    So Minkowski's space is three space dimensional, and the ST is 11th
    space dimensional..!!!

    Also concerning the space we have different answers..!!!
    Do we (the Science) know anything about time or space?

    Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?
    LeoK

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoK View Post
    Hi

    So, we can measure time, by the main Clock example.
    But we got three different clock readings..!!!

    But can we so, measure space?

    This is, if one take some different "space"-theories, also unceasingly
    non uniform as the here initial clock/time example.

    What I'm referring as "space" theories are the SR and the String Theory, ST.
    (Minkowski's naturally four-dimensional space-time. And the latest ST theory's
    11th dimensional space.)

    So Minkowski's space is three space dimensional, and the ST is 11th
    space dimensional..!!!

    Also concerning the space we have different answers..!!!
    Do we (the Science) know anything about time or space?

    Believe we still are deep, deep in the dark tunnel?
    LeoK
    We are indeed LeoK,myself while I will agree that there is an "appearance "of time and
    space within the relative universe,I hold that they are really illusions,cast by the luminosity of the infinite glow,in which the relative universe is bathed in!
    regards michael.
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