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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 06-21-2007, 12:53 AM

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Kudos to Graybeard, north and Lloyd on the preceding dialogue.
Very well done on all points of the (matrix, vector and scalar) compass rose.

Thank you for the illumination.

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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 06-21-2007, 07:20 PM



Nevertheless Rascal, I think I'm ahead by a TKO.

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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 08-23-2007, 09:12 PM

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Hi North, I'd really have to know the basis of your thinking to answer further. Do you see the universe as scalar energy to scalar matter, or scalar matter to scalar energy? Most see it as energy to matter condensation. I and others on this forum see it as matter condensing or changing state to energy and other denser and thinner states of matter. Einstein long ago showed us matter and energy are two states of equivalent properties___E=MC^2. Which cart are you riding in___Energy first, or matter first? It's matter first, for me...

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well let me put it this way .

what can become thinner energy or matter?

energy too me.

but the problem is , for me any way , what is energy? thats the thing.

the cause of energy too me is friction between objects.

so the problem becomes , is energy a sort of manisfestation of a hidden property of matter?

I mean how can Heat be manifested if there is no physical property on which to be expressed?

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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 08-25-2007, 12:01 AM

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well let me put it this way .

what can become thinner energy or matter?

energy too me.

but the problem is , for me any way , what is energy? thats the thing.

the cause of energy too me is friction between objects.

so the problem becomes , is energy a sort of manisfestation of a hidden property of matter?

I mean how can Heat be manifested if there is no physical property on which to be expressed?

hmmm......
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Under conditions of the absence of matter and energy there can be no heat.
Refer 'absolute zero'. Heat is synonymous with motion, and there is no condition of matter or energy that is completely bereft of motion...

(Dear North: did you read the beginning posts of this thread - the following dialogue between Lloyd and I ?)

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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 08-27-2007, 06:15 PM

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Under conditions of the absence of matter and energy there can be no heat.
Refer 'absolute zero'. Heat is synonymous with motion, and there is no condition of matter or energy that is completely bereft of motion...
you've missed my point . my point is not about motion , which I agree , is the essence of heat it self.

my point is more about not the essence of heat but about how heat transfers from one object to another. is there a three dimensional medium , or particle(s) by which heat rides on , to transfer. otherwise the energy generated in the form of heat stays where it is generated.

am I clear yet ? if not ask further questions

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A small injection here if I may,North,would not the aether or ether be the very medium
you are looking for?It is a great conductor of force,and enables transfers to occur.



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Re: Effects of the expansion of physical matter with space. - 08-27-2007, 11:28 PM

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A small injection here if I may,North,would not the aether or ether be the very medium
you are looking for?It is a great conductor of force,and enables transfers to occur.



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michael , your input is always welcome by me

as to your statement about aether , it could very well be.

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michael , your input is always welcome by me

as to your statement about aether , it could very well be.

any further thoughts?
Thanks north,just to say that for any interaction to occur there has to be a medium,(field)
the aether covers this splendidly,as it is the perfect conductor of force,without it the universe would be unable to function.


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Thanks north,just to say that for any interaction to occur there has to be a medium,(field)
the aether covers this splendidly,as it is the perfect conductor of force,without it the universe would be unable to function.


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so now is an aether within each and every atom or does this aether just surround the atom outside of its boundries , just beyond the electron inotherwords?
  
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so now is an aether within each and every atom or does this aether just surround the atom outside of its boundries , just beyond the electron inotherwords?
Good question North,The aether is the field,the medium that permits interactions,now if
we use this example for players on a football field,are they on, or in the field?

As a spider glides over her web,she interacts with it,and is at one with it,yet remains
also aloof from it.

I would suggest the matter does much the same.



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