[Graybeard]

Hi North I don't think its pulling, ... its accelerating, its pushing.

cool bananas ... greg

[north]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Hi North I don't think its pulling, ... its accelerating, its pushing. cool bananas ... greg

same difference though.

push against push 3 dimensionaly = null

[Graybeard]

North

In your view then the universe is static?

greg

[north]

Originally Posted by Graybeard North In your view then the universe is static? greg

yes

the Universe is static

or non-expanding

[RascalPuff]

[quote=Graybeard;31373]Rascal ..... It seems to me that you have managed to unify the four forces in a single paragraph. This is good. Most of us on this forum take at least a page ()

OK .... I have three questions:

1.. Does 'earlier moments in the 4-D spacetime continuum' refer to a previous time or a continuing time. ie: the Big Bang or each proceeding (preceding) moment .

2.. Where do you define the boundary between macrocosmic & microcosmic ie: the atom, the electron or inside the 'shell' of a proton, etc

3.. As, you indicate, that gravity is the only force found on both sides of this boundary why does it apparently shell out so much energy when it crosses the boundary. If we let gravity have a value of 1 when its inside the boundary (microcosmic) , then why would it only have a value of 10^(-41) once it crosses (macrocosmic) . Where did the energy go ?

cool bananas ... greg[/quote

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Hey Mr. Greg:

1.. earlier moments refers to a continuing time - there's no 'start'; no 'big bang'. The same amount of energy distributing itself over an increasingly greater area, squared. No contradiction of the law of conservation of mass-energy. Steady state. No beginning. No end. The microcosms are just as infinite and endless as the macrocosms, though comparatively more dense in the microcosms when compared with the value of 'now', and comparatively less dense in the macrocosms when compared with the value of now. There's no 'cross-over' - we're just humming along... Yesterday is smaller and more dense, tomorrow is larger and less dense, and we're constantly in the middle, looking 'down' into the microcosmic - what will become - the present and past, and 'up', into - what will and has become - the macrocosmic future.

Graphically it looks like this < with the past as the apparent intersection (infinite smallness and denseness), the middle where we are in the eternal now, and the proceeding enlargement as the future.
Yesterday's 60 mph (and celeritas constant) is comparatively slower than today's, and today's is comparatively slower than tomorrows, ad infinitum. We're always in the 'middle' of this proposed contnuum.

o b v i o u s l y m a t t e r is not expanding...

Please let me know if this reponds to your three questions.

Thanks for being.

Best regards
- RP
('Where did the energy go?' - It gets bigger, distributes itself over an increasingly greater area, relative to 'us'.)

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hey guys, just let me butt in for a moment. Obviously matter is all that's expanding___ o b v i o u s l y m a t t e r is expanding/contracting...
since there's really no such thing as energy___All energy is matter. Energy is just our subjective description of matter expansions and contractions. When everyone can understand this physical phenomenon, as it truly exists, then maybe science/physics can start advancing, again...

Linguistics___ain't it a bitch...?

Lloyd

[quote=RascalPuff;31386]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Hey Mr. Greg: 1.. earlier moments refers to a continuing time - there's no 'start'; no 'big bang'. The same amount of energy distributing itself over an increasingly greater area, squared. No contradiction of the law of conservation of mass-energy. Steady state. No beginning. No end. The microcosms are just as infinite and endless as the macrocosms, though comparatively more dense in the microcosms when compared with the value of 'now', and comparatively less dense in the macrocosms when compared with the value of now. There's no 'cross-over' - we're just humming along... Yesterday is smaller and more dense, tomorrow is larger and less dense, and we're constantly in the middle, looking 'down' into the microcosmic - what will become - the present and past, and 'up', into - what will and has become - the macrocosmic future. Graphically it looks like this < with the past as the apparent intersection (infinite smallness and denseness), the middle where we are in the eternal now, and the proceeding enlargement as the future. Yesterday's 60 mph (and celeritas constant) is comparatively slower than today's, and today's is comparatively slower than tomorrows, ad infinitum. We're always in the 'middle' of this proposed contnuum. o b v i o u s l y m a t t e r is not expanding... Please let me know if this reponds to your three questions. Thanks for being. Best regards - RP ('Where did the energy go?' - It gets bigger, distributes itself over an increasingly greater area, relative to 'us'.)

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Hey guys, just let me butt in for a moment. Obviously matter is all that's expanding obviously matter is expanding/contracting... Since there's really no such thing as energy. All energy is matter. Energy is just our subjective description of matter expansions and contractions. When everyone can understand this physical phenomenon, as it truly exists, then maybe science/physics can start advancing, again...

Dear Rascal / Lloyd ... obviously you both know what you are talking about.

However I don't. Can you straighten me out on one point to start with. Are we talking about a closed system?

A system that consists of nothing but matter and the void?

This system is in a constant rate of expansion, therefore undetectable by anything or any means within the closed system.

Rascal ... I have been reading you all over the internet. It seems unfair that you can give me so much homework and that I can't return the favour.

Lloyd: re: energy is matter. In this context then magnetic fields are electric fields, positive is negative? And yet these different states of energy do have a real physical differential effect ?


cool bananas ... greg

[RascalPuff]

[quote=Lloyd Gillespie;31389]Hey guys, just let me butt in for a moment. Obviously matter is all that's expanding___ o b v i o u s l y m a t t e r is expanding/contracting...
since there's really no such thing as energy___All energy is matter. Energy is just our subjective description of matter expansions and contractions. When everyone can understand this physical phenomenon, as it truly exists, then maybe science/physics can start advancing, again...

Linguistics___ain't it a bitch...?

Lloyd
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Dear Lloyd:

From what may be gathered from your big bang and big crunch - PingPong - pulsating universe as it appears in other posts, it could be that you mean, obviously e x p a n s i o n and c o n t r a c t i o n can be a graphic as well as linguistic b*tch?

- RP

[Lloyd Gillespie]

The key is, it's a real physical matter void, of varied states___completely...

Lloyd

Originally Posted by Graybeard Dear Rascal / Lloyd ... obviously you both know what you are talking about. However I don't. Can you straighten me out on one point to start with. Are we talking about a closed system? A system that consists of nothing but matter and the void? This system is in a constant rate of expansion, therefore undetectable by anything or any means within the closed system. Rascal ... I have been reading you all over the internet. It seems unfair that you can give me so much homework and that I can't return the favour. Lloyd: re: energy is matter. In this context then magnetic fields are electric fields, positive is negative? And yet these different states of energy do have a real physical differential effect ? cool bananas ... greg

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie The key is, it's a real physical matter void, of varied states___completely... Lloyd

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graybeard
Dear Rascal / Lloyd ... obviously you both know what you are talking about.

However I don't. Can you straighten me out on one point to start with. Are we talking about a closed system?

A system that consists of nothing but matter and the void?

This system is in a constant rate of expansion, therefore undetectable by anything or any means within the closed system.

Rascal ... I have been reading you all over the internet. It seems unfair that you can give me so much homework and that I can't return the favour.

Lloyd: re: energy is matter. In this context then magnetic fields are electric fields, positive is negative? And yet these different states of energy do have a real physical differential effect ?


cool bananas ... greg

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Dear Greg:
the system is not merely in a constant state of expansion, it is in a constant state of accelerating expansion. Consequently all of the experiential effects of gravity (the 4-D space-time continuum) as we see and feel (and hear) them (as in the settling down of a spinning coin or round platter on a hard surface) makes the issued expansion within the (spatially finite, chronologically infinite) system, altogether detectable... It is not a question of where and what it is, it's a question of where and what it isn't...

Regards
- RP