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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Dear 'north':
    We are agreed to disagree.

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    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Dear north:

    We are agreed to disagree.

    Regards

    - RP
    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    Dear north:

    We are agreed to disagree.

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    fair enough

    but from my point of view I'm spot on about the truth of time , the essence of time and what time actually is. really.

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Quote Originally Posted by north View Post
    fair enough

    but from my point of view I'm spot on about the truth of time , the essence of time and what time actually is. really.

    Everyone who enters a library will find that there are many many thick books about TIME. All are excellent books with different deep thoughts and wide references. Time is really one of the long-sought mind-boggling topics.

    Hope that everyone in this thread can contribute some.

    - - - -

    Actually, if a lecturer in the Philosophy Department of a universe likes to see the potentials of those course-takers, just give them a quiz on their own idea about time (don't just bring out standard/routine answers). Then, this test tells many things.

    Best Regards. Bottomlander

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Time and Space Exists. But it is only Now and Here.

    Rest all can and only be perceived in memory. And when something is not in real experience they can only be utilities.
    Yes, definitely time and space are the tools to study the objects for the better understanding of their properties. The information provided by the study will help the other human to understand things better. Coz the whole earth looks different from each other object. There are no identical apples, no identical roses, no identical humans when perceived three dimensionally. But when the barrier is crossed then the reality dawns.Everything is ONE. That is real knowledge.

    Time and Space are nothing more than a tool of communication. Its always used to refer any factors of only past and future. But for the present - there is no need of a quantified fact called Time. Its just a reference plane for better understanding. Because, when there is a need to explain a naive person, there are certain requirements, - which are used in common to both - as Language, Reference of Time and Info about that space. But when a person is on his / her own, there is no need of external communication. Knowledge just dawns. Needn't be explained.
    I can see death. Its very Far, yet very Near.

    Coz, I don't see anything in between from where I stand NOW, and where the death is. Its pure vacuum.
    Or, Is it the Death is Here? Now?

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    but from my point of view I'm spot on about the truth of time , the essence of time and what time actually is. really.

    Spot off…
    Time for this galaxy began at creation, a bang, from which expansion began. It is within this time based function that mankind evolved to ponder its structure.
    One cannot address the subject of ‘TIME’ as a manmade linear tool, non-existent, or subjective.
    Most discussions revolve around a misconception that Time is strictly linear. From a real study of time, we can note that linear time exhibits the vector properties of length and direction. Within expansion, time itself is a multidimensional, polynomial MacLaurin series. We are within this function, but choose only to acknowledge the linear form of time which governs our lifestyles and volume expansion.
    Yet we accept that linear time exists within a volume, that ‘time’ exists on an XYZ axis. At any point in 3 dimensional space, linear time exists at that point and all points. Distance is observed in six directions, within this volume of time.
    Within the expansion function, from which we evolved, time is a vector space which exists only with spatial properties.

    Time and Space Exists. But it is only Now and Here……. there is no need of a quantified fact called Time.

    How many ‘Now and Here’s do you have to experience to know about past, present and future? This ‘Now and Here’ view leads ‘nowhere’.
    Yes there is a need, a critical need to remove ignorance of ‘time’ and proceed forward in science. Time exhibits the properties of a vector space from which our reality stems. There are experiments being done, based on this concept, that will lead to amazing discoveries in our near future.
    Space and time are inseparable.

    Happy Thoughts……..Q7

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Of course there is no space, time or motion. The question is how did the source(everything) convince itself that different possibilities exist?
    every step we take forward we must subtract a step which means we have moved nowhere. Maybe

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Quote Originally Posted by quanta07 View Post
    How many ‘Now and Here’s do you have to experience to know about past, present and future? This ‘Now and Here’ view leads ‘nowhere’.

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    All the so called past and future is seen by the mind - from the point where you stand. And that point where you stand is can be only Now and Here. It will take you 'Nowhere' - coz there is Nowhere to GO...
    I can see death. Its very Far, yet very Near.

    Coz, I don't see anything in between from where I stand NOW, and where the death is. Its pure vacuum.
    Or, Is it the Death is Here? Now?

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    As we pass through this life we acquire and gain pearls of wisdom. We meet others who have acquired their pearls of wisdom. If we are lucky, communication occurs and pearls of wisdom are exchanged. Each then moves on with their own pearls plus the wisdom gained from the encounter. Such is a life path of enlightenment.

    So let me begin with this pearl#1;
    When entering a room full of people, it is best to not speak and let them all THINK you ignorant, than to speak and have them verify it.

    I am not one to be polite in the presence of ignorance.
    There is no ‘we agree to disagree’ here.

    Is this the best wisdom you offer…..
    All the so called past and future is seen by the mind - from the point where you stand. And that point where you stand is can be only Now and Here. It will take you 'Nowhere' - coz there is Nowhere to GO...

    This is called the ostrich syndrome.
    Stick your head in the sand and don’t think.

    All of us exist in the present because we exist in the past, yesterday. Denying the certainty of tomorrow becoming today, that there is no future time, is childish.
    The world does not cease to exist when you die. The human brain creates nothing in nature, it only observes and records. It is up to you to train it to analyze and solve problems. Don’t be an ostrich.

    You evolved from your environment. Space-time is not a human creation or a point of view. Space-time has nothing to do with mankind or the ‘mind’.

    I offer you a pearl of wisdom concerning time,
    Time is multidimensional and exists only with a spatial property, making Space and time inseparable.

    http://www.toequest.com/forum/mathematics-articles/427-the-pure-mathematics-space-time.html


    Happy thoughts……Q7

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    Re: It's About Time Again: The Stubborn Fantasy of "No Space, Time or Motion".

    Indeed, time does not stop existing when you can't see it.

    Does left go away when you move to the right?
    Emily: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
    Stage Manager: No. *pauses* The physicists and mathematicians, maybe they do some.


 
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