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Okay I got to know of this just now. I will have to validate the explaination..
Can u plz elaborate that. I'm not able to understand u.
  
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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-01-2008, 08:01 AM

Your post was very enlightening for me. However I just need to validate the statements from my sources...


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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-01-2008, 10:52 AM

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Your post was very enlightening for me. However I just need to validate the statements from my sources...
It seems to me that this is always your answer. Above, a while ago, I asked you for references to your comments, but you still have not provided them. I think your statements would have more meaning if you either (a) admitted they were your thoughts and didn't keep on mentioning sources you cannot give or (b) provide us with the references you promise!


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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-02-2008, 05:09 AM

I keep on reading about these stories in the scientific magazines that come to me. It is very diffcicult to give a link for these magazines..



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It seems to me that this is always your answer. Above, a while ago, I asked you for references to your comments, but you still have not provided them. I think your statements would have more meaning if you either (a) admitted they were your thoughts and didn't keep on mentioning sources you cannot give or (b) provide us with the references you promise!
  
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I keep on reading about these stories in the scientific magazines that come to me. It is very diffcicult to give a link for these magazines..
So, would anybody answer my queston?
  
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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-02-2008, 11:48 PM

Your statement that entropy can be reversed in the 12th dimension is mathematical and hence to be proven. As of now we do not have any proof of the 12th dimension....


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Your statement that entropy can be reversed in the 12th dimension is mathematical and hence to be proven. As of now we do not have any proof of the 12th dimension....
Do you have the mathematical proof?
  
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Wink Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-03-2008, 10:12 AM

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Time is linear in the 'open' universe of the hyperbolic curvature (negative, saddle shaped etc in curvilinear coordinates in GR) in 10+ dimensions.

This 'open' universe is hower 'enveloped' in the 11th dimension acting as Moebian connector; say like a reflecting mirror surface folding in on itself (like a Klein Bottle say).
So the 'envelope' of the '11D-Witten- Mirror' (of M(irror)-Theory) in effect 'doubles' the surface area for the ordinary Riemann hypersphere of Riemannian-Geometry and the applied Einstein-Friedmann- Walker cosmology.

So now one can reduce the higher dimensions to a simple 2-sphere analogy with the 'outside' mapping the 12th dimension and the 'inside' mapping the 10th dimension.

This inside becomes the Klein-Kaluza- Maldacena cosmology now in vogue and often described as a 5-D antiDeSitter space. Here the 5th dimension is a simple surface dimension as reducible of the 11th (via the 8-Torus and such topological complications) . This 5th dimension is also invoked to decribe quantum gravity models nowadays.

Yet, the 12th dimension also allows a reversal of the time-entropy arrow in a 'purely' nonmassparametric sense.

We restrict a mass evolution (characterised by a slow diminuition of the Newton's 'G' constant from a maximal (Planck-Scale) value to asymptotic 0 in infinite linear time to the 'inside' aka the hyperbolic universe in 10D omnispace.

This beautifully restricts a bounded universe in mass (say so 10^53 kg) in an encompassing BlackHole evolution from the primoirdial vacuums of the Higgs Fields, when the inertial mass became created from its gravitational predecessor.
It also then results in the measured zero-Curvature for the universe's overall topology. But it allows the remnant vacuum to manifest as zero-point-energy, say the Heisenberg Spectra of the gauge boson interactions.

So from 'within' the universe must be measured as open and will be observed to be 'too young' after 16.9 billion years of linear time have elapsed. Yet this universe is 'closed'relative to its own boundary of a receeding 'event horizon'. So this universe is open ralative to a say 'Big Bang' observer, but is closed (ellipsoidal with positive curvature) relative to its own boundary, say an observer covariant with the expanding 'wavefront'.

The 16.9 Gyears are of course defined by the total mass via density parameters and the Hubble laws etc (or vice versa).

But from 'without', the time will not be linear, but will be cyclic with odd and even nodes separated by the 16.9 Gyears.

BUT no inertial outside observer can exist by definition of QR's cosmology (because of the selfenfoldment of space and time) and so the observations of science from the 'within' will continue to show paradoxes until the more encompassing cosmology is better understood.

One prediction is for example, that in one billion years the universe will be measured to be 1 billion years younger than today, say so 13 Gyears for a Hubble Constant of so 72 km/Mpc.s.

We so have a cyclic universe (but no colliding ekpyrotic branes by the way), defining poetically a pulsation or an 'heartbeat' of the universe itself. And this is a universe, which is selfmade and selfcontained in material parameters and originating in a precise quantum oscillation of the so called Planck parameters of space, time, temperature and the primordial energy (defining GodDoG or the Logos or the SourceSink).
Dear lakshya,

I am so sincerely impressed by your complexity of knowledge that I only really want to quote it again so that others can read it again too. It's just great Lakshya!

I have an idea or theory of black holes that I think is much different that anyone else, and thought you might like to hear it. I will say in brief that we misunderstand the power or energy of a star. We feel the heat, and see the light of the Sun, our own star, from only a minute point on Earth which is only part of infinite points of energy. When a star dies the vacuum created by infinite points of energy racing away from its original source is the vacuum our draft that takes all the energy points that cross the vacuums path and remove it from our view.
In other words a black hole is only the vacuum created by a infinite packet or quantum of light, racing away from its original source, creating a vacuum much like the draft of a car, and then taking any points of light that cross its path for a inter-galactic ride. Wouldn't that be a trip to go on? A black hole is not an implosion as science theorizes, but rather a vacuum drafting energy not inward but rather away in the direction of the quanta, through a dimension we cannot see.

We can only see minute dimensionally the light of a star. In truth, a star is much more than we think or can see.

Perhaps Lakshya, you could find some symmetry in your wonderful complex understanding of science and unify it with the simplicity of what I see.
Just a thought!

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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-03-2008, 05:38 PM

If you assume that there is no frequency, then f=0, and
t=(1/f)=(1/0)=infinite, which means that there is no time.
  
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Re: Time cannot exist without matter (mass) and motion - 01-04-2008, 12:18 AM

Your statement here says in the 12th dimension time entropy reversal is possible.. How did you concur on that???



Yet, the 12th dimension also allows a reversal of the time-entropy arrow in a 'purely' nonmassparametric sense.
  
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