[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:

Is Time the 4th dimension as Albert Einstein indicated? Or is there more to time as the 4th dimension then has previously been indicated? The purpose of this thread is to analyze exactly what happens to space as the time dimension is initiated. Have we given this phenomena enough thought to truly get a grip at what is taking place at this intersection of time and space.


Progression of static dimensions:
I see the difference from one dimension to the next as a result of the exponent. A single dimension of 5 inches results with (5)^1 =5 To add a dimension we add 1 to the exponent and result with (5)^2 = 25
This could be represented as a sheet of paper that is 5 inches by 5 inches resulting in a sheet of paper that is 25 square inches. The next dimension will increase in the same way. (5)^3 = 125 cubic inches. This could be represented by adding sheets of paper to form a stack of paper 5 inches tall.

Static dimensions as opposed to dynamic dimensions: Time is a dynamic dimension:
Note the dimensions that we are adding here are static. They are not changing they remain the same. A dynamic change in dimension as exists with time, is continuously adding space as the time ticks on. If the stack of paper was a dynamic increase of the 3rd dimension it would be like continuously adding sheets of paper to increase the height of the stack. A parallel to this might be to view the dynamic increase of the 4th dimension as adding new universes. It certainly appears to be the creation of space at this point.


Now to see this as the creation of new space at the point of creation = NOW
This results with a situation that is indicative of a non deterministic domain. The reason that it is not deterministic is that we do not understand the dynamics of creation, and we are not likely to get any kind of grip on this in the near future as it is totally out of our ability to do, or to understand. Does this mean that we must give up the knowledge of a large part of our existence medium. I can see why the scientific community does not accept this, as it makes them acknowledge their impotence. This impotence will also effect their ability to generate income.

Do not redefine the subject because you do not like one paragraph:
I do not see that as a reason to put your head in the sand and hide from the truth like a big dumb bird.
I see it as a good reason to put controls on the capital system to insure the income of the educational system for everyone. Then maybe we will not need to hide the truth in order to insure the income potential for the education of mankind.
John

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks EMM,Time for me is an illusion,so it cannot be a 4th dimension,however the NOW
that you mentioned could very well be,although I would see the 4th dimension as being
consciousness expressed within the ever-present now.



regards michael.

[everymansmedium]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thanks EMM,Time for me is an illusion,so it cannot be a 4th dimension,however the NOW that you mentioned could very well be,although I would see the 4th dimension as being consciousness expressed within the ever-present now. regards michael.

Hello Michael:
Would you then consider the creation of space that is obviously occuring at this point of creation NOW the results of what you wish to term consciousness?

John.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello Michael: Would you then consider the creation of space that is obviously occuring at this point of creation NOW the results of what you wish to term consciousness? John.

Yes John I would.I would consider that consciousness rather than time is the 4th
dimension.Now extends in all directions and fills all,now can be as narrow as a day or as wide as a century,as our consciousness expands then so does our understanding of the
seemingly infinite depth of now.



regards michael.

[everymansmedium]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Yes John I would.I would consider that consciousness rather than time is the 4th dimension.Now extends in all directions and fills all,now can be as narrow as a day or as wide as a century,as our consciousness expands then so does our understanding of the seemingly infinite depth of now. regards michael.

Hello Michael:
I can understand your thought. You must then still believe that there is in fact a creation of space that happens at this point now. This consciousness would be, in your eyes the continious cause of this creation of space?
John.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello Michael: I can understand your thought. You must then still believe that there is in fact a creation of space that happens at this point now. This consciousness would be, in your eyes the continious cause of this creation of space? John.

I see John the physical universe as a series of cycles,each one lasting billions of years,days and nights of Brahma,where this universe is either in off mode,or on mode,
when the "on mode" comes online so to speak,the first born into the now of relativity
is Consciousness and with this comes its cousin space!



regards michael.

[everymansmedium]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick I see John the physical universe as a series of cycles,each one lasting billions of years,days and nights of Brahma,where this universe is either in off mode,or on mode, when the "on mode" comes online so to speak,the first born into the now of relativity is Consciousness and with this comes its cousin space! regards michael.

Hello Michael:
I appreciate the reasoning that you have to understand the observation that I put before you. I understand the phenomena in a different way. I was more interested in talking about the specific observation. I also could talk about the constant continue as the basis for all life as is what I believe. In a thread for that purpose I will talk of that. The difference between this and what you speak of may be no more than the understanding of specific words and the semantics of our point of attention.
We might simply swap the words consciousness and continue.

But in this thread I was more interested in the specifics of this observation.

The reason for this is to get acknowledgment for the obvious creation of space at this point, as that would indicate that we have a less than a deterministic existence medium. This needs to be discussed. I understand why many people and organizations do not want to acknowledge this phenomena as it indicates many of their efforts to be impotent.

At this point I do not see anybody that is willing to talk about the specifics of this observation. In this arena it seems that I am getting SILENCE.

I will take that silence as a compliment but I will also keep this thread before your eyes until I get a response.
John

http://unit-unity-community.com/

[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:
I know that I am not the only one that sees this. It is after all quite obvious.
just like adding sheets of paper to a stack of paper to increase the third dimension. Each time a sheet of paper is added the stack gets taller, increasing the 3rd dimension. Why should the 4th dimension be any different. our first 3 dimensions make up the universe. Then the 4th because it is dynamic is creating new universes. I think we have been blind not to see this before. Maybe there are some that would not want this to be common knowledge. Maybe because creation is non deterministic. It is hard to sell tickets to a deterministic show in a non deterministic town.
John

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello Michael: I appreciate the reasoning that you have to understand the observation that I put before you. I understand the phenomena in a different way. I was more interested in talking about the specific observation. I also could talk about the constant continue as the basis for all life as is what I believe. In a thread for that purpose I will talk of that. The difference between this and what you speak of may be no more than the understanding of specific words and the semantics of our point of attention. We might simply swap the words consciousness and continue. But in this thread I was more interested in the specifics of this observation. The reason for this is to get acknowledgment for the obvious creation of space at this point, as that would indicate that we have a less than a deterministic existence medium. This needs to be discussed. I understand why many people and organizations do not want to acknowledge this phenomena as it indicates many of their efforts to be impotent. At this point I do not see anybody that is willing to talk about the specifics of this observation. In this arena it seems that I am getting SILENCE. I will take that silence as a compliment but I will also keep this thread before your eyes until I get a response. John http://unit-unity-community.com/

Its been a pleasure sharing with you John,I will post no more here,hope you get some bites here,it is an interesting thread.

[everymansmedium]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Its been a pleasure sharing with you John,I will post no more here,hope you get some bites here,it is an interesting thread.

Hello Michael:
I hope that I did not offend you. I did not mean to imply any thing negative about your concept, to the contrary. I find our thoughts to be quite similar. I think we may have a different understanding of some words. But I am quite sure that our general direction is the same. I hope that at some point we will have the opportunity to share our thoughts on these concepts. I certainly was not wanting you to leave. I do understand if you do not wish to talk on this subject. I guess that I was getting a bit frustrated that there was not one person that would so much as touch on the concept that I point at so explicitly in this thread. Should I consider this silence as a compliment, or should I just let it drop?
John