The Illusion Of Time And Space

[greenbug]

You know time has already been defined as a ‘rate of flow‘ by Newton… Whether there is or isn’t space or time we measure difference and define it by these terms. There maybe no definable measurement with out us to perceive differences, if we truly define our reality.

By Einstein’s suggestion the flow is threw that of space and so his definition would simply be that time is a rate or in his words an interval. Yet the flow doesn’t have to be space it could be an object that is flowing from one form to another. But it logically makes sense that if flow is space then all objects are simply an interval in space or a rate of flow.

This is thinking abstract some object as being a rate of flow. Every one wants to define it definitively. But no matter how small you quantify it, you will always have an object that is flowing at a rate. Be it procreating threw space in three dimensions or exchanging rates by means of a flow in a single dimension.

[melanie]

Munty13,great post,and welcome to the forum,we live and move and have our being within this illusion,and most know it not!

Indeed.

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How's michael...now? ..... oh, you know, the same as it ever was / is


Eternity Eternal Now Moment Ever-Unfolding Time Timelessness
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[melanie]

Eternity is a single moment of Infinite Awareness.

[PeteJ]

Munty. I have not read all this, but I notice that early on you dismiss time as some kind of illusion, or as being an artefact of consciousness and in this sense in the eye of the beholder, and then go on to talk about motion. But if time is unreal then so is motion and change.

Score one for Parmenides and Zeno.

For the Buddhist view, which is similar to yours, you might like to chek out 'Abhidhamma Studies - Buddhist Exporations of Consciousness and Time,' by the Venerable Nyanaponika Thera. (Wisdom Pubs)

[spacedout]

Isn't it strange how many point locations there are in our universe; is the universe really infinite or is it finite. Maybe those point relocations are a single thing that repeats like a step over and over giving the illusion that there is distance and time and 3-dimensions. A television uses this principle by one spot or step over and over. I believe what we see in an illusion of something different. Space seems to be quantized by Planck lengths that won't allow a person to know where a single wave is at a given time or to know its momentum at the same time.

[PeteJ]

Wow. That's almost as good as the Jewel Net of Indra. Maybe even better. It would make sense of the idea that there is only one electron.