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Re: Measuring consciousness - 01-29-2008, 01:19 PM

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Divergence now thats more like it
An infinite series that diverges is said to have no limits while a converging infinite series do have a limit and these limits give the mathematics of differential and integral calculus. However, in vector analysis of abstract directions the divergence of a vector is simply the outward flow of a vector field from a point source. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence_theorem


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An infinite series that diverges is said to have no limits while a converging infinite series do have a limit and these limits give the mathematics of differential and integral calculus. However, in vector analysis of abstract directions the divergence of a vector is simply the outward flow of a vector field from a point source. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence_theorem

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Re: Measuring consciousness - 01-29-2008, 01:34 PM

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there's more to this than meets the eye
However, it is just too bad that the flow of time or the flow of consciousness cannot be described by divergence theorem. Maybe they could be described by the curl theorem or also otherwise known as Stoke's theorem.


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However, it is just too bad that the flow of time or the flow of consciousness cannot be described by divergence theorem. Maybe they could be described by the curl theorem or also otherwise known as Stoke's theorem.
Prehaps we can both work out a theorem that will do just that!Thinking caps on.


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Re: Measuring consciousness - 01-29-2008, 02:41 PM

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we can both work out a theorem that will do just that
To begin we must first postulate that a quantum of time exists known as a unit circle. Where and when two unit circles linked together the resulting structure is really a one dimensinal Moebius band. Furthermore, the four directions along the band could be described by Hadamard matrices of the second and third kind. The product is Hadamard matrices of the sixth kind giving mass and charge.


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To begin we must first postulate that a quantum of time exists known as a unit circle. Where and when two unit circles linked together the resulting structure is really a one dimensinal Moebius band. Furthermore, the four directions along the band could be described by Hadamard matrices of the second and third kind. The product is Hadamard matrices of the sixth kind giving mass and charge.

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Re: Measuring consciousness - 01-29-2008, 02:57 PM

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mkirkpatrickit seems we are halfway there already.
Howver, in a Moebius universe it is all or nothing there is no half way mark of half full or half empty. Furthermore, Moebius band has no begin and end point and it is also one-sided that is to say no inside or outside.


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Howver, in a Moebius universe it is all or nothing there is no half way mark of half full or half empty. Furthermore, Moebius band has no begin and end point and it is also one-sided that is to say no inside or outside.

It would seem then its back to the drawing board then,unless i can figure a way onto mobius strip!


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Re: Measuring consciousness - 07-16-2008, 09:56 AM

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How can we measure consciousness? Is it measured by time? The computer language called PROLOG uses logic and its operators are not '+', '-', 'x', or '/'. but logical operator of 'true' or 'false' for ordinal numbers of first, second, third, etc. as what a time sequence would indicate.

Hi Antonio...although I am lost on your brilliant mathematical equations which I am constantly examining I do want to comment on your thread here. Can we measure consiousness by time??? Is not time essentially related to all the developmental stages we pass through from birth to death? In those time frames which begin with being visionary, then pass to the development of a beginning structure of internal security, then to the beginnings of thought, then to self-reflective abilities and so on and on...is this not all happening in fragments of developmental stages over time?? I think time is involved simply because we cannot say with any assuredness that an infant is in a conscious state or has the conscious ability to say be self-reflective which comes much later through the passage of time and later stages of development. I could be far off base from what you are trying to figure out in this thread but took this direction because I saw your question as pondering a connect between time/emerging consciousness and measureing consciousness...


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Re: Measuring consciousness - 07-16-2008, 11:39 AM

The universe is infinitely immeasurable, yet mankind continues to measure the universe in vain.
Such is the measured weakness of our conscious mind.
But then consciousness is infinitely and univerally immeasurable too.
And thus is the flaw of our human nature or minds.

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