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    Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    This video explores Jupiter's role as the 800
    pound gorilla of our solar system, with stops
    on its fascinating moons and the big red spot.
    Produced by NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio
    with additional video from NASA JPL and
    ESA Hubble.

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s56px...layer_embedded

    Jupiter: the Largest

    Was my post following:
    http://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/135182

    i think this link is most interesting report of inversion proof of geometric reality advancement given... they make a hole. ~Graham Burnett

    and Sages next one

    (which I'm too lacking academically, to interpret)

    on to Frick...

    then back
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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Rc, I'm academically challenged when it comes to Calculus, so the most i can venture is, yes, probably.

    Avicennian philosophy
    Ibn Sīnā wrote extensively on early Islamic philosophy, especially the subjects logic, ethics, and metaphysics, including treatises named Logic and Metaphysics. Most of his works were written in Arabic - which was the de facto scientific language of the time in the Middle East, and some were written in the Persian language. Of linguistic significance even to this day are a few books that he wrote in nearly pure Persian language (particularly the Danishnamah-yi 'Ala', Philosophy for Ala' ad-Dawla'). Ibn Sīnā's commentaries on Aristotle often corrected the philosopher[citation needed], encouraging a lively debate in the spirit of ijtihad.

    In the medieval Islamic world, due to Avicenna's successful reconciliation between Aristotelianism and Neoplatonism along with Kalam, Avicennism eventually became the leading school of Islamic philosophy by the 12th century, with Avicenna becoming a central authority on philosophy.[26]
    Avicennism was also influential in medieval Europe, particular his doctrines on the nature of the soul and his existence-essence distinction, along with the debates and censure that they raised in scholastic Europe. This was particularly the case in Paris, where Avicennism was later proscribed in 1210. Nevertheless, his psychology and theory of knowledge influenced William of Auvergne, Bishop of Paris and Albertus Magnus, while his metaphysics had an impact on the thought of Thomas Aquinas.[27]

    [edit] Metaphysical doctrine

    Early Islamic philosophy and Islamic metaphysics, imbued as it is with Islamic theology, distinguishes more clearly than Aristotelianism the difference between essence and existence. Whereas existence is the domain of the contingent and the accidental, essence endures within a being beyond the accidental. The philosophy of Ibn Sīnā, particularly that part relating to metaphysics, owes much to al-Farabi. The search for a definitive Islamic philosophy separate from Occasionalism can be seen in what is left of his work.

    Following al-Farabi's lead, Avicenna initiated a full-fledged inquiry into the question of being, in which he distinguished between essence (Mahiat) and existence (Wujud). He argued that the fact of existence can not be inferred from or accounted for by the essence of existing things, and that form and matter by themselves cannot interact and originate the movement of the universe or the progressive actualization of existing things. Existence must, therefore, be due to an agent-cause that necessitates, imparts, gives, or adds existence to an essence. To do so, the cause must be an existing thing and coexist with its effect.[28]

    Avicenna’s consideration of the essence-attributes question may be elucidated in terms of his ontological analysis of the modalities of being; namely impossibility, contingency, and necessity. Avicenna argued that the impossible being is that which cannot exist, while the contingent in itself (mumkin bi-dhatihi) has the potentiality to be or not to be without entailing a contradiction. When actualized, the contingent becomes a ‘necessary existent due to what is other than itself’ (wajib al-wujud bi-ghayrihi). Thus, contingency-in-itself is potential beingness that could eventually be actualized by an external cause other than itself. The metaphysical structures of necessity and contingency are different. Necessary being due to itself (wajib al-wujud bi-dhatihi) is true in itself, while the contingent being is ‘false in itself’ and ‘true due to something else other than itself’. The necessary is the source of its own being without borrowed existence. It is what always exists.[29][30] The Necessary exists ‘due-to-Its-Self’, and has no quiddity/essence (mahiyya) other than existence (wujud). Furthermore, It is ‘One’ (wahid ahad)[31] since there cannot be more than one ‘Necessary-Existent-due-to-Itself’ without differentia (fasl) to distinguish them from each other.

    Yet, to require differentia entails that they exist ‘due-to-themselves’ as well as ‘due to what is other than themselves’; and this is contradictory. However, if no differentia distinguishes them from each other, then there is no sense in which these ‘Existents’ are not one and the same.[32] Avicenna adds that the ‘Necessary-Existent-due-to-Itself’ has no genus (jins), nor a definition (hadd), nor a counterpart (nadd), nor an opposite (did), and is detached (bari’) from matter (madda), quality (kayf), quantity (kam), place (ayn), situation (wad’), and time (waqt).[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    When we're searching for Truth or the golden chalise, we necesassarily have to seperate the wheat from the chaff?
    i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwyuQbIb0Xs

    In Philosophy this is demonstrated in Non-duality or, Advaita Vedanta. [Not two]

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Drifter, please pardon my Freudian Slip (spelling and memory are only two of my issues)....I meant Fick's Law.

    anyway... I don't know "calculus" ....but, "yes, probably" works.

    the rest....I'll look into.

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Okay, I'll try...I happened to be looking into Fick's Law when I read your response to G_Burnett and viewed the video on the other thread (Toronic Concepts). I had been at Brownian Motion.... I'd been surfing white noise all day.

    The Narrow escape problem is an ubiquitous problem in biology, biophysics and cellular biology which has the following formulation: a Brownian particle (ion, molecule, or protein) is confined to a bounded domain (a compartment or a cell) by a reflecting boundary, except for a small window through which it can escape. The narrow escape problem is that of calculating the mean escape time. This time diverges as the window shrinks, thus rendering the calculation a singular perturbation problem.

    This struck me funny....yeah, and beam divergence. I was going to say Time is of the essence....but I wasn't sure, so I didn't.

    "Avicenna adds that the ‘Necessary-Existent-due-to-Itself’ has no genus (jins), nor a definition (hadd), nor a counterpart (nadd), nor an opposite (did), and is detached (bari’) from matter (madda), quality (kayf), quantity (kam), place (ayn), situation (wad’), and time (waqt)."[

    Is time of the essence? (self-imposed time out)

    I don't think you want to know where I've been concerning cells.....logic, ethics, metaphysics........I'm too tired now and my notes are in the car.....ugh........Now, where is that non-markov chain?.......nowhere dense set? sorry......messy, very messy.

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    Okay, I'll try...I happened to be looking into Fick's Law when I read your response to G_Burnett and viewed the video on the other thread (Toronic Concepts). I had been at Brownian Motion.... I'd been surfing white noise all day.

    The Narrow escape problem is an ubiquitous problem in biology, biophysics and cellular biology which has the following formulation: a Brownian particle (ion, molecule, or protein) is confined to a bounded domain (a compartment or a cell) by a reflecting boundary, except for a small window through which it can escape. The narrow escape problem is that of calculating the mean escape time. This time diverges as the window shrinks, thus rendering the calculation a singular perturbation problem.

    This struck me funny....yeah, and beam divergence. I was going to say Time is of the essence....but I wasn't sure, so I didn't.

    "Avicenna adds that the ‘Necessary-Existent-due-to-Itself’ has no genus (jins), nor a definition (hadd), nor a counterpart (nadd), nor an opposite (did), and is detached (bari’) from matter (madda), quality (kayf), quantity (kam), place (ayn), situation (wad’), and time (waqt)."[

    Is time of the essence? (self-imposed time out)

    I don't think you want to know where I've been concerning cells.....logic, ethics, metaphysics........I'm too tired now and my notes are in the car.....ugh........Now, where is that non-markov chain?.......nowhere dense set? sorry......messy, very messy.
    Thanks Rc.
    I get a sense of humor about you that I can and do appreciate.

    Usually over dramatic or too academic uninformed but opinionated [stating the source], for my personal tastes (messy, iow) in discussing things. lol

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fick's_laws_of_diffusion

    What I can glean from a quick perusal of Frick's Law,,,,iwould venture a conjecture that it is leaning probably towards....

    Time divided by Space. equals rate of dispersion or accumulation and formation.

    As The diagrams at the above link impress on me intuitively???

    Illustrative yet, Begging for understanding??? Mystical, kinda.

    My question would be, what is "the cause" of either "notion".



    I might propose the question that begs to be answered.

    If time and Space are Infinite and Etheric... what is their local, apparent Ephemreal counter tick in sidereal time? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeral

    Mother Nature?
    htt

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Pushing the limits.
    Nousosphere and phenomospheres: astalomalolobepozitiwofemiotic-proposal
    Randomness ~{Nature}~ in a specific Time and a Specific space.
    are just incoherent squiggles that are visible to the unaided, untraine (consciousness) "eye", is not aware of.

    Consciousness is "on order with", as Awareness, is, as to, The Cosmos or Cosmelogical Constant?

    The inner reflecting the outer, as above so below?

    http://astalomalolobepozitiwo.blogsp...-proposal.html

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    "Usually over dramatic or too academic uninformed but opinionated [stating the source], for my personal tastes (messy, iow) in discussing things. lol"



    What is iow?

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    well...

    last night I forgot what a Markov chain was (ironic). so this morning i wanted to refresh my memory (no pun intended). While reading about it, the topology of the bagel (transformed).

    I will see what i find in your links. I'm distracted at the moment.

    Thanks, Drifter

    Yours truly.....

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    Re: Torodials-Space Torus, Black hole

    Quote Originally Posted by racecar View Post
    "Usually over dramatic or too academic uninformed but opinionated [stating the source], for my personal tastes (messy, iow) in discussing things. lol"



    What is iow?
    lol, sorry Rc.


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