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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar
    I am very sure equations do not rule the physical world.
    They don't but they try to describe or to model the physical world as best they could. For example, superstring theories are described or modeled by both compact unitary symmetries as well as by noncompact space-time symmetries. Sadly, supersymmetries still cannot completely and convincingly assert the existence of all elementary particles. Worst, they predicted the existence of superparticles which cannot be tested or detected. Hence, I think lies the flaws of supersymmetry.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]˛=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c˛

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    I believe in a special string theory that loops all the universe as a time-line. With this idea I can show why we have 3-dimension, how the charges of quarks and leptons are formed, what gravity is, what electric force is, what causes chromodynamics, why we have an inertia, what causes spin and why matter has 1/2 spin, why the EPR correlation experiment gives the answer it does, what c^2 in the formula E = mc^2 really means and how it is related to the diagonal formula D = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2, how electrons can be converted to positrons, and why movement must occur along a matrix to make our universe.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Our univers is not only mathematical but it also is mechanical. The simplist thing in the universe is a quantum step forward or reversed in time would represent a step in energy, distance and time all in one. The problem is that E = mc^2 -- not linear c velocity equals energy c. A step in time is a velocity and the only way to get a speed that is linear is to take the square for instance c^2 = 9 and travel a distance of 3 would be to take 3 sidewise steps then one forward in time and repeat the 3 forward steps 3 and compute this as cycle-time forward. In other words it will take 9 steps in time to move a distance of 3 steps in cycle time. The formula D = (x^2+y^2+z^2)^1/2 shows that our world has to be steps through x,y,z groups in a matrix to give a constant speed in any direction. We all are part of a universal matrix just in identity in an time-line looped and balled aether.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    In effect we are pursuing a trend which is not leading us anywhere. Either we need to refine super symetry or abandon it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    They don't but they try to describe or to model the physical world as best they could. For example, superstring theories are described or modeled by both compact unitary symmetries as well as by noncompact space-time symmetries. Sadly, supersymmetries still cannot completely and convincingly assert the existence of all elementary particles. Worst, they predicted the existence of superparticles which cannot be tested or detected. Hence, I think lies the flaws of supersymmetry.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar
    we need to refine super symetry or abandon it.
    If we abandon supersymmetry then we are back to either unitary symmetry or to space-time symmetry. The first is just quantum mechanics the second is general relativity. Supersymmetry in a sense is just trying to combine these two disparate physical theories but the requirements are related to extremely high energy. What I'm hoping to do is to relate this very high energy to the square of energy as the quantum vacuum fluctuations of space-time charges. Moreover, if we can extract energy from the quantum vacuum then it would indicate that the theory of square of energy is correct.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]˛=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c˛

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    IS it similar to crystal field theory?'

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    If we abandon supersymmetry then we are back to either unitary symmetry or to space-time symmetry. The first is just quantum mechanics the second is general relativity. Supersymmetry in a sense is just trying to combine these two disparate physical theories but the requirements are related to extremely high energy. What I'm hoping to do is to relate this very high energy to the square of energy as the quantum vacuum fluctuations of space-time charges. Moreover, if we can extract energy from the quantum vacuum then it would indicate that the theory of square of energy is correct.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    I would be very happy the day mathematics is detached from physic at some stage and we can be free of equations for unraveling the mysteries of the Universe

    OK, the ground-state of all was always here. Done.
    But how does this event apply to all that is, not all that was?

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    P.S. are we going to use the knowledge of what is to come to change the past?

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    It says that we are free to make of existence whatever we may, to live a life of the meaning that we wish from whoever we have become. All is open.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Brian Greene is a Keen Flying Machine
    Spellbound I will forever be under the baton of Nova's PBS broadcast Elegant Universe. Physicist Brian Greene is a Supreme and Empirical example of what it takes to become an American Idol. Anyone who can begin his fiat in real space-time with a one dimensional loop has my goat, I mean vote. There's no business like show business - like no business I know. The toughest business in the world. No I haven't stood in line to see the movie yet but I've read portions of the introduction to his book and all I can say is I've lost my ability to punctuate and misplaced any semblance of scientific inclination in the potent shadow of such a conspicuously talented and charming master of ceremonies.

    In lieu of his Nobel Prize, room must be made for him in the house of Pulitzer, with Golden Globes suspended from the ceiling directly above the staging for the Academy Awards Oscar. Physicist Brian Greene is as every bit as elegant unto science & mathematics as Mike Tyson is unto pugilism in the international arena. The author is a model of what it takes to make it in the challenging world of political and social vertical ascension today. If Brian Greene and his 11 to 26 oscillating and undulating Super Strings don't vibrate all the way to the top of where it's at and stay there for another 30 years, displacing even the mighty big bang and black hole sensations, there is no Rex Reed or god... Meanwhile, the history of physics is kaput. My socks roll up and down in contemplation of the unfathomable depths that Lewis Carroll forsook, in his mathematical expeditions to and from Alice's Wonderland.

    The destiny of science and humanity lies in the architectural ambition of designing a Castle in the Sky, where all that is needed is more bricks, mortar, wiring and an occasional - mathematically manifest - Sky Hook formula: when occasion behooves it. The Sky Hook's irreproachable mathematics rest on the backs of winged turtles. Forego talk of gravity. Any and all comprehensive understanding yields to highly classified. esoteric equations and formulae and elite societies of authorities ensconced in inscrutable coordinates.

    Bewildered and beguiled public interrogatives may placate themselves with knowing with absolute certainty that the apparent complexities of reality are reducible to something that explains it with a burst of blinding lights that incapacitate all but the most refined, vitally youthful, specially educated and talented observers. A stronger, faster, more sentient class of scholars than there were before.

    The Past, Present and Future is an anachronism.

    As for me, I'm investing in #2 pencils and a tin cup. My goodness gracious in these editorial waves of future shock, what Joy of Cooking books will be Magically, Mystically & Mathematically Microwaved by String Theory's 'Mother', next? When Mother needs another string dimension, she summons Father to rustle one up. Hence 10 dimensions beget 11, and if need be, 11 beget 26, and more if you have need for them. Creating a begotten bustle of iconoclastically inbred bastards to rival Noah's Ark.

    The Ministry of Plenty has merged with a Star Trek inspired Hollywood Guild, founded in the Top Guns of Geneva & Stockholm, where the answers proliferate in the parameters of a jungle of particular particles inventoried in collisions of ponderous protons. The reinstallment of Einstein's 'abandoned' Cosmological Constant - Lambda /\ - is a public secret wrapped in dark energy and quintessence, while it is forgotten that Einstein (Who?) was returned to working on what he had earlier called the 'biggest blunder' of his life, before he perished at Princeton in '55.

    Without a quantitative prediction in over 30 years the New Age string 'theory' advocates are push-pinned to the academic bulletin board, with the young school following the Ministry of Justice, the mathematicians following the funds and the physicists following the grants.

    The Lost Platoon's objective is to bag a metaphorical lion Einstein spoke of in a parable - of a Unified Field that would unite electromagnetism, gravity and/or quantum theory - and, according to the latest reports from the inscrutable inner circle, quite possibly eliminate any need for gravity altogether.

    Pretenders may fall with confidence upon the old saw of talking about something that they understand no one comprehends in the first place. Only string 'theorists'. ouija board masters, and certified table levitators will penetrate the mathematical entanglements, equations and collapsations of the triple canopy wet woodlands and thick snarling masses of tropical vegetation where Einstein's (!) fabled, Mighty King of the Jungle Makes and Maintains his Mystical Magic.

    The lion is too large to be seen in the thick foliage and wilderness right now but the leading scatologists are reporting that soon rare paw prints will be located and the equation and formula slingers will be in gifted sight of the Jungle King's legendary one half inch of tail and then his mighty, hirsute caboose is predicted to emit a roar that may disable all sensory equipment for any further detection of him. The universe (one verse) has been modified by the New Age World Order to mean as many and more universes than there are grains of sand on all the beaches in all the world. The sparkling possibilities are as endless as the New Age revised, revolutionary new approach to the 21st century TOE. The *Ministry of Truth has in the meanwhile cleared the path for the industriously unstoppable safari - by way of dismissing reality, for lack of evidence.
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    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    A link might be in order: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/


    The Elegant Universe
    (Special 3-Hour Mini-Series with Host Brian Greene)

    String theory: It's the Holy Grail of physics—the search for ultimate law and order in the universe. And in the last few years, excitement has grown among scientists as they've pursued a revolutionary new approach to unifying nature's forces. To the uninitiated, it's totally mind-boggling. But physicist Brian Greene has a rare gift for conveying physics in vivid everyday images, a gift that has turned his recent book, The Elegant Universe, into a mighty bestseller. Now Greene brings his talent, youth, and vitality to television for the first time. A highly innovative, Matrix-like production style makes the surreal world of string theory spring to life on the screen.
    Original broadcast dates:10/28/2003 and 11/4/2003
    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid


 

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