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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Thanks bottomlander,what about us all throwing our keys into a collective hat,and
    coming up with a acceptable concoction for a theory,it might work,i would be willing
    to have a go,if there are any takers?
    regards michael,
    How about a contest of theories?

    We develop 1 definitive 'test' of a TOE, to which anyone can submit a pre-existing theory or a new theory.

    Those that fail the test are discarded. Those that pass move on to the second round of tests. We repeat this until a couple of promising candidates are found.

    A good idea would be if a theory can be modified in the middle of the contest, to make it evolutionary.

    Without some kind of test we could be arguing over which theory is best until the end of time.

    Of course, this is where I say that the first test of the TOEs should be to weed out those that have no application outside of physics., especially since those would be most difficult to prove.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    5589;
    You can view ToeQuest as an amateur contest now.
    Who believes themselves qualified to judge the winner?
    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    5589;
    You can view ToeQuest as an amateur contest now.
    Who believes themselves qualified to judge the winner?
    How about you and me Dave,would that not be a balanced approach?


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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    I don’t believe either of us is qualified to pass judgment as to what meets the TOE criteria. I only dispute what some claim to be science.
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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    I don’t believe either of us is qualified to pass judgment as to what meets the TOE criteria. I only dispute what some claim to be science.
    We all dispute things dave,science does not and will not answer all the questions
    of lifes signaling codes.

    We do not need to be essentially "qualified" rather we need to be open minded and fair,willing
    to listen to all ideas,then prehaps when we have exhausted all the applicants,we can then
    both preside over a vote,taken by all members,to see which one comes out a winner.

    I will put my put my theory on the table,consciousness holds the key to the toe,if it gets
    voted out,then fair enough,I promise not to sulk.

    Maybe Robert could act as an umpire?

    Anyway I am willing to have a bash at it,what about you?

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Democracy always deteriates to the worship of mediocrity... DeToqueville's idea...
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    5589;
    You can view ToeQuest as an amateur contest now.
    Who believes themselves qualified to judge the winner?
    Me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theunify View Post
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    You will have to put your name in the hat Jon,and hope that it is drawn out?



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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    I think a 'points' system would work better than a single vote per person.

    Everyone starts with 10 points to spread among to those theories they think are worthy. That way, you can vote on more than 1 theory and give more votes to the one you prefer most.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    I agree here. String theory has no applications. Neither can it be proved nor can it solve anything. Why are we then taking a mirage so seriously???


    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
    NO
    YES; Dimensions are only quantitative measurements; not alternate realities.
    Yes; absolutely.
    The math is useful to physics; however Like QM, some of the interpretations of the math are pure bull. String theory is made for TV science called SciFi.


 

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