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    Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Could a theory that says there are 10500 universes, each with different constants of nature and laws, possibly be a Theory of Everything?

    Could a theory that requires 10 dimensions or more to exist really be applied to the first 9 dimensions, if there are even 9 dimensions?

    Shouldn't a TOE be astoundingly simple?

    Does it have any hope of being a 'theory of everything' when it has no apparent applications outside of physics?

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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5589 View Post
    Could a theory that says there are 10500 universes, each with different constants of nature and laws, possibly be a Theory of Everything?

    Could a theory that requires 10 dimensions or more to exist really be applied to the first 9 dimensions, if there are even 9 dimensions?

    Shouldn't a TOE be astoundingly simple?

    Does it have any hope of being a 'theory of everything' when it has no apparent applications outside of physics?
    5589,I personally think that the TOE should,or will be astoundingly simple.

    I dont think physics will supply the whole equation,part of,but not wholly.


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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    5589,I personally think that the TOE should,or will be astoundingly simple. I dont think physics will supply the whole equation,part of,but not wholly. regards michael.
    Ah Mk, a few facts I will have to agree with you about. Thanks.

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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    When I wrote The Unification Theory it was my hope that it would lead to a theory of everything. It is still my hope; but let me share with you why I think it is possible to be positive about the subject as a whole; while it was possible conceivably to create a Unification of physics that is mathematical and obeys the second law of thermodynamics, it is beyond pencil and paper to map out all mean sums of all finite probabilities of THE UNIVERSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theunify View Post
    When I wrote The Unification Theory it was my hope that it would lead to a theory of everything. It is still my hope; but let me share with you why I think it is possible to be positive about the subject as a whole; while it was possible conceivably to create a Unification of physics that is mathematical and obeys the second law of thermodynamics, it is beyond pencil and paper to map out all mean sums of all finite probabilities of THE UNIVERSE.
    Never give up hope my friend,tomorrow may be the day you turn the corner,and find
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    Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Could a theory that says there are 10500 universes, each with different constants of nature and laws, possibly be a Theory of Everything?
    NO
    Could a theory that requires 10 dimensions or more to exist really be applied to the first 9 dimensions, if there are even 9 dimensions?
    YES; Dimensions are only quantitative measurements; not alternate realities.
    Shouldn't a TOE be astoundingly simple?
    Yes; absolutely.
    Does it have any hope of being a 'theory of everything' when it has no apparent applications outside of physics?
    The math is useful to physics; however Like QM, some of the interpretations of the math are pure bull. String theory is made for TV science called SciFi.

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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Never give up hope my friend,tomorrow may be the day you turn the corner,and find the key?

    regards michael.
    Dear Michael,

    The trouble is, there are too many keys required by a TOE that covers so many topics. Even a thinker/physicist found the most critical key, it still needs key by key to unlock other paradoxes. It takes tremendous time for a single person to arrange pursuasive contents be acceptable to readers.

    Most members in toequest hold a few keys each!

    Regards. bottomlander

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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Thanks bottomlander,what about us all throwing our keys into a collective hat,and
    coming up with a acceptable concoction for a theory,it might work,i would be willing
    to have a go,if there are any takers?

    regards michael,
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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Dear Michael,
    It is quite ideal to do that. I believe that you and a few memebers can do that. But the keys can hardly be just promoted as a "key term" or even a "key sentence/equation". It needs an introduction.

    I remember a Wise Word, something like: All masterpieces are written single-handedly. (perhaps as a praise to Newton)

    Keys are revolutionary ideas. Revolutionary ideas are difficult to be accepted by others at a glance. Sometimes, keys are re-definitions of items people overlooked. Then, these are easier to be promoted.

    Anyhow, toequest members already put their keys on the message board and forums. We need to read more and contribute more.

    Regards. bottomlander
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    Smile Re: Does String Theory have any value as a TOE?

    Thanks again bottomlander,i will try and do my small part,and if the others do theirs
    then maybe we can achieve something.

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