What are Strings made of???

[Profpat]

Strings could very well be all that Prof; it's just that we can't know yet. The formulas do work, all 10**1000 of them, which are at least a string hint that a universe can exist in many ways.

I sill have to say that there is a problem with real stuff being eternal, although "something" had to be, because (1) How could "forever" have already happened,It didn't happen Austin, it's eternal it not being a completable thing Universe is still a work in progress (2) What would have determined the necessary amount of the strings? Hmmm?(3) How the heck could these forever existing strings have had many other qualities that could work out so well and go on to all of our glorious and higher composite complexities made of them? Hmmm?(4) How did they appear enough in one spot to do anything as a whole?I think they were all squished together in the beginning, and then BANG, gamma waves making particles and antiparticles which are anhilitating themselves creating new gamma rays, until you just have particles and photons.

As for a (5) of why they don't wear out, having been around forever, that is still covered as long as they are unbreakable.

You have some good questions there Austin.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Hi Prof,

On (1), I was thinking that if there was no beginning then all would have already existed forever, so to speak, as memory would have to be infinite to record it all. I'm trying to say that infinities should never be complete, as it is their nature not to, and so how could there have been an infinity happening (already happened) up to now?

Seems like with string or quarks or whatever is fundamental, we always get to the point of that being made of itself, since it can't be turtles all the way down, as someone famous once said.

[dipayankar]

Air friction affetcts the event of the fall of two different objects of two different densities. Gravity is in effect not affected. Gravity is independent of any external factor except maybe electromagnetism.

hi Dip

.... interesting question .... interesting reply from Ant ... gravity is an effect between the density factors of substance, the big and small quanta measure of such substance varies to deceptive ponders when there be such examples of linear spin, frictional type frame drag and MF spin drift in the small, MF and electromotive forces of changing charge and charge values effect the substance making more the pronounced view available in the small to get rid of gravity ... the movement of neutrons from fusion event other then down . .. in the big the same events in different quanta are seemingly taking place in different time frames of perspective and differrent quanta of substance in varied density entropy state ... the feather and the round iron ball ... air friction would slow the feather of the same weight of the ball because of the density relationship to the air ... compress the mass of the same weight to the same condensed state of shaped form and the friction becomes the same ...

...if the curve of a light round a large mass is gravity effect upon the light it would not seem possible to come back to the original direction ... thus considered I am still with the ponder that such lensing is a refraction through condensed mass ... exit gravity effect other then the gravity effect of the condensed event the light is refracted in and leaves same speed as going in... predictable then is the shift of frequency of the light in perpendicular shift varied to the lack of density of refraction ergo a curve manifesting to outside view and the rules of light being a constant still in place.

I am really out there maybe coming to this state of thought and will ponder at it more.

Ty for the replies. G.

[everymansmedium]

Maybe it is strings all the way down.

Maybe they are Planck length single dimensional strands of space as is found in the mirror image of our own existence medium. If this is so, maybe they can form matter, maybe they can form a being, maybe they can even form the soul.

John

[AntonioLao]

Could a string be a gamma ray?

Gamma rays are just a bunch of energetic photons in accordance with E=hf where h is Planck's constant of action and fis the frequency of the photon. The missing mode that I left out is E²=T²-V² where T is the kinetic energy and V is the potential energy.

[G_burnett]

Air friction affects the event of the fall of two different objects of two different densities. Gravity is in effect not affected. Gravity is independent of any external factor except maybe electromagnetism.

Good couple points but one has to add that gravity in effect not affected is a state of event between two ..one effects the other in different degrees so postulating this gravity in effect as one would see only one moving it is all a matter of perspective ... but the event is effected by the en-trophic forces that may or may not be present.

they can not repel because of density comparisons nor stop in event because of density of the medium and the medium force every where the vector, by medium motion from the beginning and or return taking place? IMHO g.

[dipayankar]

Graham can you explain this dumb creature a simple point. When strings vibrate in a certain way (dimension maybe) you get photons (energy). Photon behaves like a particle as well as a wave. When strings vibrate in a different way we get mass (which is also a particle protons, neutrons, quarks etc), when it vibrates in a third way we get gravity. Does this mean that gravity also has particles (say a gravitron)? Else strings as a Toe does not make sense.

Good couple points but one has to add that gravity in effect not affected is a state of event between two ..one effects the other in different degrees so postulating this gravity in effect as one would see only one moving it is all a matter of perspective ... but the event is effected by the en-trophic forces that may or may not be present.

they can not repel because of density comparisons nor stop in event because of density of the medium and the medium force every where the vector, by medium motion from the beginning and or return taking place? IMHO g.

[G_burnett]

Graham can you explain this dumb creature a simple point. When strings vibrate in a certain way (dimension maybe) you get photons (energy). Photon behaves like a particle as well as a wave. When strings vibrate in a different way we get mass (which is also a particle protons, neutrons, quarks etc), when it vibrates in a third way we get gravity. Does this mean that gravity also has particles (say a graviton)? Else strings as a Toe does not make sense.

You hit it right on the button Mr Dip.

You lead into the ponder to quark ... the direction of thought has to be the shape and the shape is the result of motion of quark given dimension of velocity ... that movement to varied degree gives varied shape and potential quanta to all the above effect. The 8th D enacted. ... Quark separation in the dimension of event formation of shape is noted to a non decrease of connect of flavors in the composite. ... it is the same from there to here ... but then there is fusion event to effect . ... I am still working on that with much ponder of connect disconnect ... and gravity event too ... so many different different views and there are waves everywhere ... particles reel and dance to the bongo ... the beat ... the pulse, its everywhere my friend ... all you need is the right tuner and bingo you have empathy.
Gravitons hmmm the shape and density to another in the dimension of measurement and we could use that word. IMHO ..
the three Greek rings of effect now ... I think thats the right element in play. takes three parts to join but any one apart and there is no join, no possible connect ... is this quark effect? I am leaning toward the thought. Hope it is not off subject for you. kind of late here for me, bed time. I am better in the morning.

kind regards graham

[dipayankar]

I am trying to grasp your expalination, however I still feel that to explain gravity, strings are not enough. They are a vague concept which make us excited without any viable proof.

You hit it right on the button Mr Dip.

You lead into the ponder to quark ... the direction of thought has to be the shape and the shape is the result of motion of quark given dimension of velocity ... that movement to varied degree gives varied shape and potential quanta to all the above effect. The 8th D enacted. ... Quark separation in the dimension of event formation of shape is noted to a non decrease of connect of flavors in the composite. ... it is the same from there to here ... but then there is fusion event to effect . ... I am still working on that with much ponder of connect disconnect ... and gravity event too ... so many different different views and there are waves everywhere ... particles reel and dance to the bongo ... the beat ... the pulse, its everywhere my friend ... all you need is the right tuner and bingo you have empathy.
Gravitons hmmm the shape and density to another in the dimension of measurement and we could use that word. IMHO ..
the three Greek rings of effect now ... I think thats the right element in play. takes three parts to join but any one apart and there is no join, no possible connect ... is this quark effect? I am leaning toward the thought. Hope it is not off subject for you. kind of late here for me, bed time. I am better in the morning.

kind regards graham

[G_burnett]

I am trying to grasp your explanation, however I still feel that to explain gravity, strings are not enough. They are a vague concept which make us excited without any viable proof.

I agree with you. strings are not enough.

the only thing that really explain gravity in a measurable event is density of substance in effect.

When you get to density it is only the surface that counts ... rather the shape of substance. ... the habit both for the internal and external forces in play to the event to dimensional effect vectored to (jeez I hate this word) gravity. We are able to change that shape and see it changed both from the internal and the external measure varied quark speed in the reel... for the internal and lets use the non circular shape of our solar system for the external.

I hope I have said that correctly. If the three rings of quark break by one or two it is only a perception of view... they are still connected despite distance so very unlike MF flux except in fluidity of state where they may not be connected .. not proved much yet but having some good indicators this is the case.

and boldly i would postulate that even in conjunctive by other event such as fusion ... let us imagine they still have a connecting force between the other ring ...


lets say we increase the spin of a proton

We do know now how to spin a single electron right so why not?

as we do the shape is changed to allow for event of effect of other substance mass shape and with greater surface area in the change of shape as shape is dependent on quark speed and spinning the proton should allow for this change of shape ... we suddenly in the simple have more potential to possible more mass effect and event there of anti gravity? .... now that will give a headache to depict maybe if you do not believe in black holes but they are quite common event of varying degree ... IMHO ... I hope the postulation is not far out there ... kind regards g