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    String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

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    Spellbound, I will forever be under the baton of Nova's PBS broadcast Elegant Universe. Physicist Brian Greene is a Supreme and Empirical example of what it takes to become an American Idol. Anyone who can begin his fiat in real space-time with a one dimensional loop has my goat, I mean vote. There's no business like show business - like no business I know. The toughest business in the world. No I haven't stood in line to see the movie (stack it higher) yet, but I've read portions of the introduction to his book and all I can say is I've lost my ability to punctuate and misplaced any semblance of scientific inclination in the potent shadow of such a conspicuously talented and charismatic master of ceremonies.

    In lieu of his Nobel Prize, room must be made for him in the house of Pulitzer, with Golden Globes suspended from the ceiling directly above the staging for the Academy Awards Oscar. Physicist Brian Greene is as every bit as elegant unto science & mathematics as Mike Tyson is unto pugilism in the international arena. The author is a model of what it takes to make it in the challenging world of political and social vertical ascension today. If Brian Greene and his 11 to 26 oscillating and undulating Super Strings don't vibrate all the way to the top of where it's at and stay there for another 30 years, displacing even the mighty big bang and black hole sensations, there is no Rex Reed or god... Meanwhile, the history of physics is kaput. My socks roll up and down in contemplation of the unfathomable depths that Lewis Carroll forsook, in his mathematical expeditions to and from Alice's Wonderland.

    The destiny of science and humanity lies in the architectural ambition of designing a Castle in the Sky, where all that is needed is more bricks, mortar, multi- dimensional universal joints, wiring and an occasional - mathematically manifest - Sky Hook formula: when occasion behooves it. The Sky Hook's irreproachable mathematics rest on the backs of winged turtles. Forego talk of gravity. Any and all comprehensive understanding yields to highly classified. esoteric equations and formulae and elite societies of authorities ensconced in inscrutable coordinates.

    Bewildered and beguiled public interrogatives may placate themselves with knowing with absolute certainty that the apparent complexities of reality are reducible to something that explains it with a burst of blinding lights that mathematically incapacitate all but the most refined, vitally youthful, specially educated and talented observers. A stronger, faster, more sentient class of Masterful Super Scholars than there were before.

    The Past, Present and Future is a flash-frozen anachronism.

    As for me, I'm investing in #2 pencils and a tin cup. My goodness gracious in these editorial waves of Future Shock - what Joy of Cooking books will be Magically, Mystically & Mathematically Microwaved by String Theory's 'Mother', next? When Mother ('M theory') needs another string dimension, she summons Father ('F theory') to rustle one up. Hence 10 dimensions beget 11, and if need be, 11 beget 26, and more if you have need for them. Creating a begotten bustle of iconoclastically inbred bastards to rival - or sink - Noah's Ark.

    The Ministry of Plenty has merged with a Star Trek inspired Hollywood Guild, founded in the Top Guns of Geneva & Stockholm, where the answers proliferate in the parameters of a jungle of particular particles inventoried in collisions of ponderous protons. The reinstallment of Einstein's 'abandoned' Cosmological Constant - Lambda /\ - is a public secret wrapped in Dark Matter and Quintessence, while it is forgotten that Einstein (Who?) was returned to working on what he had earlier called the 'biggest blunder' of his life, before he perished at Princeton in '55.

    Without a quantitative prediction in over 30 years the New Age string 'theory' advocates are push-pinned to the academic bulletin board, with the young school following the Ministry of Justice, the mathematicians following the funds and the physicists following the grants. Physics=Math. 2 + 2 = 5.

    The Lost Platoon's objective is to bag a metaphorical lion Einstein spoke of in a parable - of a Unified Field that would unite electromagnetism, gravity and/or quantum theory - and, according to the latest reports from the inscrutable inner circle, quite possibly eliminate any need for gravity altogether.

    Pretenders may fall with confidence upon the old saw of talking about something that they understand no one comprehends in the first place. Only string 'theorists'. ouija board masters, and certified table levitators will penetrate the matrix of mathematical entanglements, equations and collapsed triple canopy wet woodlands and thick snarling masses of tropical vegetation where Einstein's (!) fabled, Mighty King of the Jungle Makes and Maintains Dr. Greene's Mathematically Mystical Magic - the same 'M theory' Medium of Math that reckoned correction, after 'proving' why: a 4-D bumblebee can't fly.

    "All things are possible" with string theory's invoked, smoked & misted Mirrors and Math.

    The invoked lion is too large to be seen in the thick foliage and wilderness right now but the leading scatologists are reporting that soon rare paw prints will be located and the equation and formula slingers will be in gifted sight of the Jungle King's legendary one half inch of tail and then his mighty, hirsute caboose is predicted to emit a roar that may disable all sensory equipment for any further detection of him. The universe (one verse) has been modified by the New Age World Order to mean as many and more universes than there are grains of sand on all the beaches in all the world. The sparkling possibilities are as endless as the New Age revised, revolutionary new approach to the 21st century TOE. The *Ministry of Truth & Propaganda (*Co-authored "Battered & Bullied Women Make Better Pancakes & Burgers") has in the meanwhile, cleared the path for the industriously unstoppable safari - by way of dismissing reality, for lack of evidence. The String 'theory' Medium of sub-quantum Mathematics has grounded the 4-D bumble bee, while empowering it's castle in the sky with the ability to fly. Dr. Brian Greene and his equations pristine, have beaten a main-stream path: back to the New Age Math.

    There will be an answer, let it be? Anything is possible in the 'theorist community' of strings - just attach more strings where needed. Jiggle the loops and dig the vibes. Join the innercircle exotic equation cartel and liberate everything? History (and 1984?) may yet escape the past?
    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Dear Rascal ..... Everything you have posted is just Hype. You are not addressing the theory itself .... its just a piece of negative journalism that does not address the theory but lambasts, as you see it, the perpertrators. Isn't this just the sort of propaganda that you decry in many of your other threads.

    Shouldn't you show that at least you have a basic understanding of it first ??

    If you don't understand it how can you judge it ??

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Dear Rascal ..... Everything you have posted is just Hype. You are not addressing the theory itself .... its just a piece of negative journalism that does not address the theory but lambasts, as you see it, the perpertrators. Isn't this just the sort of propaganda that you decry in many of your other threads.

    Shouldn't you show that at least you have a basic understanding of it first ??

    If you don't understand it how can you judge it ??

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    cool bananas ... greg
    Dear Greg:
    No. I am not going to invest another decade 'learning what String 'theory' is.'

    What I already know is that the singular dimension string 'theory' imparts a 'loop' in, contradicts geometric law - there is no dimension for a one dimensional entity to 'curve' into.

    Moreover, even allotting it with two dimensions, it still doesn't exist and is therefore unable to effect physical reality. That's it.

    I don't often make predictions, whereas, I predict that 'string theory' is destined to go the way of the - so called - 'New Math', and fall on its little red caboose, along with its industriously employed propaganda machine (and all of its armada of stormy Public Relations investors who are infiltrating high schools and colleges, like military recruiters use to), in due time.

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Greg, imo, it's a funny story__the funny thing is, it's also true...

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Dear Rascal ..... Everything you have posted is just Hype. You are not addressing the theory itself .... its just a piece of negative journalism that does not address the theory but lambasts, as you see it, the perpertrators. Isn't this just the sort of propaganda that you decry in many of your other threads.

    Shouldn't you show that at least you have a basic understanding of it first ??

    If you don't understand it how can you judge it ??

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    It may be true or not, time will tell ...... but it cannot be discarded for the reasons Rascal gives .... In order to state an opinion you must first understand it.

    cool bananas ... greg
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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Greg, anybody with half a brain, understands 1D and 2D spaces are nonsense... 1D and 2D maths is one thing, but spaces/strings...? Last I read of Ed Witten, the string guru, strings take up real space, so people who profess the 1D and 2D space strings are way off reality base__known facts of logical truth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    It may be true or not, time will tell ...... but it cannot be discarded for the reasons Rascal gives .... In order to state an opinion you must first understand it.

    cool bananas ... greg
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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    Greg, anybody with half a brain, understands 1D and 2D spaces are nonsense... 1D and 2D maths is one thing, but spaces/strings...? Last I read of Ed Witten, the string guru, strings take up real space, so people who profess the 1D and 2D space strings are way off reality base__known facts of logical truth...
    Well then your photons don't exist because they are 2 dimensional transverse waves, FACT. 2 dimensional wave equation surface area only. And guess what there are 1 dimensional waves.

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Well then your photons don't exist because they are 2 dimensional transverse waves, FACT. 2 dimensional wave equation surface area only. And guess what there are 1 dimensional waves.
    Are not two different facets - mathematics & geometry - of the same discipline, throwing an intractable 1 & 2 dimensional loop of string around a 1 & 2 dimensional wave, here?
    Both Planck length and sub-quantum are accessible via mathematical matrix equations. Neither are accessible via qualified geometry. Ethereal mathematics is not conditional/ontological physics, the former being subordinate to the latter.

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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

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    Well then your photons don't exist...
    You'll have trouble convincing the world of that...

    Pat, you're simply confusing the original argument with later definitions. I'm simply talking about the topological space required to be taken up, by any string, is 3D. That's what I originally stated, and it still is__there's no such animal as a 1D or 2D string, due to the fact it logically requires topological space to exist, just as any particle does... Anything requiring topological or spherical space occupies a 3D space__It's only common sense, no matter what the stringies say... Read Ed Witten, he knows better... He's the mathmetician who stated the new age math revolution...

    Topological Space Math...
    Topology...


    You can't confuse the mathematical space with real space. That seems to be what you are doing...
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    Re: String Theory's Mathematical Fright of the 4-D Bumble Bee

    Lloyd I have no problem with imagining a photon as a 3D sphere with surface area only. It's like taking a 2 dimensional plane and enfolding it to make a sphere.

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