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    Lightbulb string motion?

    How do strings move? This may seem like an arbitrary question, but in fact this question may lead (assuming String Theory is Correct) to an astonishing consequence. If you are unaware of how strings are supposed to behave, here is the just. Strings are said to exist in Calibi Yau space (Curled up seven dimensional spaces (7-D)), these spaces dictate the exact vibration resonance of the string inside. There is one string inside of every CY (Calibi Yau), and there is a CY at every point in the more classic, unfurled three-dimensional grid of space (3-D). This is the problem I see with string motion. How can a string move through the 3-D without morphing, because the string is also passing through the different CY's so the string should be morphing as they pass through? This obviously does not happen, so what’s up? The astonishing effect is this. The strings don’t move the CY simply imparts its shape on another CY therefore changing the pattern of the string inside of the seconded CY into the pattern of the first. If this were done in a sequence we would get what appears to be a string in motion. Now an obvious question is if there is a string in every CY and a CY at every point in space then, what about empty space? Well I believe what we see as empty space is actually the Graviton form of a string, and since mass warps 3-D, the gravitons "fall" in on all matter. The final idea I have postulated is, what gives matter its mass? For this I will introduce a new term namely a realm of action. I believe when a string vibrates it encloses the surrounding CY's and the more vibration energy the bigger the realm of action is. This is what I believe gives particles there point appearance and its mass; the mass is larger if the realm of action encloses more CY's. The edge of this CY where any physical interaction between particles takes place.

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    This definatelly solves Zeno's paradox of the halfs.

    The main problem is that it is too abstract: motion is converted to change. This is strange...What about time? shoudln't it dissapear?

    EDIT: The important (to physics) concept of speed dissapears according to this theory! I would have that in mind when thinking about it.

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    Time, and speed still exsist

    The theory does not denounce speed or time; it simply changes the way we think about them. In the theory CY's must share their shape information with adjacent CY's, this is done by a CY stretching its 3-D grid line to touch the other CY, at point of contact the CY imparts its shape information on the other CY and returns to place of equilibrium on the 3-D grid. It is the rate of these information transactions, which cause "speed", and since speed exist so does time.

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    It is a theory that works, but doesn't convince me. It isn't logical that time does not exist. How do you explain time dilatation and gravity's effects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUILLE
    How do you explain time dilatation and gravity's effects?
    if time is a parameter then it can dilate. Only mass can feel the effects of gravity. Photons and gluons and gravitons all have no mass so in theory they all cannot feel the effects of gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    if time is a parameter then it can dilate. Only mass can feel the effects of gravity. Photons and gluons and gravitons all have no mass so in theory they all cannot feel the effects of gravity.
    I mean the effect of gravity meaning that time slows down. to the auther, hwo can this happend with your theory of CY spaces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUILLE
    I mean the effect of gravity meaning that time slows down.
    General relativity predicts that strong gravity slows time but indirectly strong gravity implies the existence of large masses,e.g., the earth and the apple, the earth and the sun. GPS satellites are affected by the time differences because of the difference between the gravity field above and on the surface.

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    Time

    Guille:
    "I mean the effect of gravity meaning that time slows down. to the auther, hwo can this happend with your theory of CY spaces?"

    I see what you mean; I have described only spatial dimensions in my theory. A simple correction will fix this. I in Einstein’s Special & General Relativity, he describes space and time as a intertwine fabric. My correction is that the 3-D grid becomes Einstein’s 4-D fabric. Then time exist again.



    The problem of Gravity, and it warping 3-D & time (4-D) is already solved by GR and SR (accept the idea of Gravitons falling on matter), since Einstein’s fabric still exist it still is fully functional.



    Motion warping 4-D, in my theory, is because the CY's must stretch to "touch" other CY's and this would warp 4-D (more massive bodies would warp more space, therefore have more of a dilation in time. The same is true for faster objects).

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    Excellent joke!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Epslion
    How do strings move? This may seem like an arbitrary question, but in fact this question may lead (assuming String Theory is Correct) to an astonishing consequence. If you are unaware of how strings are supposed to behave, here is the just. Strings are said to exist in Calibi Yau space (Curled up seven dimensional spaces (7-D)), these spaces dictate the exact vibration resonance of the string inside. There is one string inside of every CY (Calibi Yau), and there is a CY at every point in the more classic, unfurled three-dimensional grid of space (3-D). This is the problem I see with string motion. How can a string move through the 3-D without morphing, because the string is also passing through the different CY's so the string should be morphing as they pass through? This obviously does not happen, so what’s up? The astonishing effect is this. The strings don’t move the CY simply imparts its shape on another CY therefore changing the pattern of the string inside of the seconded CY into the pattern of the first. If this were done in a sequence we would get what appears to be a string in motion. Now an obvious question is if there is a string in every CY and a CY at every point in space then, what about empty space? Well I believe what we see as empty space is actually the Graviton form of a string, and since mass warps 3-D, the gravitons "fall" in on all matter. The final idea I have postulated is, what gives matter its mass? For this I will introduce a new term namely a realm of action. I believe when a string vibrates it encloses the surrounding CY's and the more vibration energy the bigger the realm of action is. This is what I believe gives particles there point appearance and its mass; the mass is larger if the realm of action encloses more CY's. The edge of this CY where any physical interaction between particles takes place.
    Very good joke, even if i would want ridiculize to string theorists with garbage could not do best. Really great, the best joke on string theory that i read in the last years (even best than Seagal's jokes and mocking in string theory).

    I will add some comment for people that has not your level of understanding of string theory and could think that you are talking seriously.

    1) String theory was substituted by M-theory. I said years ago that CY manifolds were not correct. Now it is already known (ignored by people) that the CY is NOT real and physicists and mathematicians are now working with so-called G2 manifolds in the new M-theory.

    Of course There is not one string inside of every CY, can exist one, dozens of millions or zero.

    The idea of that there is a CY at every point in the more classic, unfurled three-dimensional grid of space (3-D) of course is false. It is a pictorical representation somewhat like curved spaces around Sun when one explains GR (see Elegant universe by B. Greene). Old string theory claimed for ONE CY in all universe not one CY in each point. Therefore the idea of that a string may go from a CY to adyacent one is of course a complete nonsense, as nosense as claim that in each point of usual space there is a 3D manifold and we move from one 3D to other adyacent 3D when move on any direction.

    "How can a string move through the 3-D without morphing, because the string is also passing through the different CY's so the string should be morphing as they pass through?"

    This is obvious. there is not "
    morphing". When a string "moves" on 3D space only its coordinates in the rest of CY manifold are constant, and therefore it is stopped (i refer to net displacement of center of mass, of course string is vibrating according to the theory) in the rest of dimensions, somewhat like moving in a plane (e.g. XY), the third dimension (Z) is a constant of motion.

    Of course the comment about empty space and Gravitons and mass is a complete nonsense. The hypotetical graviton is a well-defined state of vibration of string itself. That is well-known since 70s.

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    Juan,

    What are G2 manifolds?

    Do you have a link where they are explained (...etz)?


 

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