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09-15-2005, 01:47 AM

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One of the facts that make me not get into making my own aether/ether theory is the fact that it is not defined, each has his own perspection, yous ay it's something, others say it's the collection of something. I say "is there any difference between being something and the collection of something?" No there isn't. Everything that is something is always the collection of somethings, at least this is what common sense, logic, philosophy, science and math have shown us.
  
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Post 09-15-2005, 07:40 PM

I think that the problem physics is having (the clashes of ideas that space has 3 dimensions, spacetime is 4-D and that string theory predicts extra dimensions) are down to a philosophical mistake in our understanding. I believe that it is matter which is three dimensional (hence all matter is made up from 3 fundamental particles.... 2 up quarks and a down, or vice versa) and that space simply curves around the matter to form a 3 dimensional veil if you like. Using this perspective, it can be seen that space has infinite dimensions, but is restricted to being measured as three dimensional because of the 3-D nature of matter. Thus... if matter existed in 4 spatial dimensions then space would be seen to be 4-D and spacetime 5-D etc etc.

I should have a paper on this is the research library very soon.




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Re: Time Space & Space-Time - 12-24-2006, 02:08 PM

I think time is dependant on motion... without motion, time has no meaning....



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Why do so many people dismiss time and space as their own entities?
Time has been used for generations as a type of measurement but no one has looked at it as an element. Time in my view is the ultimate source of energy. without it we couldn't see the effects of gravity. scientists dismissed it to hastily i say.
Space is just as ignored it is used to measure distances between objects of mass but few realize that it is a mass of its own. If time and space did not have an effect upon the univers then light would not have a speed it would be instant wouldn't it?
Space-Time as in Space-Time Continueum is finally been given an identity but scientists seem to ignore the fact that Space and Time combined make up the STC. Therfore they must have at one stage even for a fraction of a second existed as seperate entities.
The basis of my theory is that Space Time and the STC all have their own particles, and that the universe is made from combinations of the three.

Everything i have read about sub atomic particles and black holes and quasars has strenghthend my own thoughts on the issue and i hope to share it with you over time as i compile data and thoughts in an easy to read format.
I am not a researcher as i have not the funds or patience but i have a very active mind and plan to use other peoples data to prove my own theories.
Please don't take my word as gospel but if nothing else i should be able to entertain you and even expand your horizons of thought.

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Did you get the brown belt in time? - 12-28-2006, 06:04 PM

Why so part-icular? You approach the conundrum from a purely optical/rational perspective. A space musician would drink in the formality of his ideality wholy differently. He would not feel nor experience the spotty granular quantities you glibly surmise.

What do you think of a spiral hour-glass fanbelt theory I have where the serpentine-belt moves about various engines or universes ~ each "universe" has its own function & respective laws: eg. the alternator engine-universe; the power-steering; water pump, etc. This timely belt could enter into any system and orbit or even become component to that "world-view"; but then it would cease being the tangential belt and loose its guru above-it-all detached qualities ~ that all fanbelts require. Notice that electrons behave somewhat like this belt when they spin-off the heavier nuclei-engines. Now, the magical now-you-see-it / now-you-don't happening is that the 3-D of one engine-universe (of say the alternator spinning around) is not discernible to the inherent components of an other system (say the power-steering), and so on. The fan-belt has more of an overview idea of each system it spins off ~ but being at a considerable distance with any particular center it figure-eights with it only has a peripheral figment of an understanding. The hour-glass aspect is the relative potential gestahlt experienced between the various multiple-universes. All these moving timepiece 'verses work in unison just like the various system in our body: cardio-vascular, nervous, skeletal, etc. Metaphorically the head is a part of this hour-glass model with our neck as the narrow stem holding one engine-verse diametrically apart from its yin-yang other... and a particle that makes up the body knows not a particle to the head except through the "belt" of neural-optics or neural-touch ~ the nervous system with its spinal column and dendrites would be somewhat like the fan-belt underneath an engine hood.


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Re: Time Space & Space-Time - 06-19-2007, 04:54 AM

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I think that the problem physics is having (the clashes of ideas that space has 3 dimensions, spacetime is 4-D and that string theory predicts extra dimensions) are down to a philosophical mistake in our understanding. I believe that it is matter which is three dimensional (hence all matter is made up from 3 fundamental particles.... 2 up quarks and a down, or vice versa) and that space simply curves around the matter to form a 3 dimensional veil if you like. Using this perspective, it can be seen that space has infinite dimensions, but is restricted to being measured as three dimensional because of the 3-D nature of matter. Thus... if matter existed in 4 spatial dimensions then space would be seen to be 4-D and spacetime 5-D etc etc.

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(George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

"All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
"Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
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Re: Time Space & Space-Time - 06-22-2007, 04:27 AM

In essense, space time everywhere would be 4D only. Though string theory requires 11D space time, then why should space time be 11D and not 25D or 11D??? What is the defining point??

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